PT562 – Ketamine-Assisted Therapy at Work? The Future of Employee Benefits, with Jessica Tracy

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🗓️ 5 November 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Joe interviews Jessica Tracy: head of sales & partnerships at Enthea, a company that works with employers, unions, and employee assistance programs to be able to offer ketamine-assisted therapy (and psilocybin where it's legal) to employees.

She talks about her path to psychedelics and how the shifts in her life led her to want to help others, finding Enthea and using her 15 years of experience in healthcare to make an immediate difference. She explains how the process works for an employee of a company Enthea works with, and the importance of evidence-based medical policy and rigorous screening to make sure people are getting the best intervention possible. One of Enthea's largest clients is Dr. Bronner's, who reported incredible improvements after employees used the benefit, with a 65% improvement in depression scores and an 86% improvement in PTSD.

She also discusses:

How psychedelics bring awareness to what we need to work on
Less-discussed treatment modalities, like electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS), and stellate ganglion block (SGB)
The inefficiency of traditional talk therapy: 50% of people only see really good benefits after 20 sessions
The importance of viewing mental health as individualized care: What else can we offer to people who haven't been helped by traditional methods?
The research that she wants to see, like measures in how present or productive people are before and after experiences

and more!

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Psychedelics today. Joe Moore here coming out you from Breckenridge, Colorado.
0:16.0	Today on the show, we have Jessica Tracy, who is part of the Enthea team. Jessica and I recorded at
0:24.1	Philadelphia. The team there was kind enough to give us a room to record in for a few sessions,
0:30.1	and it was excellent. So thanks, Philadelphia, and thanks Jessica for joining us. So Jessica's work
0:36.7	at Enthea is quite interesting. The work is around how
0:40.5	do we get insurance coverage right now for psychedelic interventions that are legal and available
0:45.1	a la Khetamine? And Enthea, we've had some representatives on before, but I think this is the first one,
0:53.5	at least in the second half of 2024. And,
0:56.8	you know, it's great to hear some updates about what's going on. And Thea, and Thea famously
1:01.9	did some health care programs with Dr. Bronner's for their employees. So they're,
1:07.6	folks who qualify could get ketamine-assisted psychotherapy. I think that's
1:11.5	really lovely. So thank you, Jessica, for joining us. Thanks, Cynthia, for the hard work you're doing
1:17.8	out there and hope you enjoy this one and learn a bunch about insurance. It's very important. You know,
1:23.3	it sounds boring, but I promise, like the impact that could come from real insurance coverage for folks would be very, very meaningful for a lot of people.
1:33.3	All right. Enjoy. We'll see you on the other side.
1:38.9	All right. Here we are. University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia. We're down in the recording basement.
1:45.0	And I'm here with Jessica from Inthea. How are you?
1:48.0	I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me here.
1:50.0	I'm excited to talk to you.
1:51.0	Absolutely. We had a chance to chat a little bit,
1:54.0	and I got to see you on stage a little bit in your panel with,
1:58.0	who was it, Michael Hoyos, Elliot Marseye, and you were up there talking about
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