Hello, everybody, Joe Moore here. Welcome back to psychedelics today. Today on the show,

we have Peter Swastead Hughes, who is a professor of philosophy at the University of Exeter, inside the psychology department,

helping inform all the interesting stuff they're doing around psychedelics. And we've known

each other for a while. I really appreciate Peter's work and love what he's up to over there

in Exeter. And everybody should check out Peter's work for sure,

and at the very least, follow him all across socials. There's all sorts of great stuff,

always great art, and lovely quotes that are very helpful. So I think we are not asking enough

philosophical questions, and I think Peter's doing a really good job helping

future psychedelic researchers ask some important and perhaps well-structured philosophical questions.

So we recorded this at Philadelphia in the basement of the conference facility,

wherever the building was. Sorry, I can't remember everybody,

but the Penn Psychedelic Collaborative gave me a really nice room to record in, and I appreciate

that. So thank you, Peter, for joining us on this one. And thank you to the Philadelphia team

for having me and hope to do more. All right. Enjoy this episode. We'll see you on the other side.

All right. Enjoy this episode. We'll see you on the other side. All right, here we are University of Pennsylvania. Some like to call it Penn,

Philadelphia. Peter's Fortead Hughes. How are you doing? I'm doing well.

How do you say it right? You did? Yeah, first person ever. Well done.

You taught me a couple years ago.

So I actually teach people how to say it often.

Thanks.

Two people yesterday, like Peter,

sorry, hold on.

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