PT558 – What You Need to Know About Massachusetts' Question 4 and the Natural Psychedelic Substances Act, with Graham Moore and Jamie Morey
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🗓️ 22 October 2024
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Joe interviews two people on the frontlines of the campaign for Massachusetts' Question 4: The Natural Psychedelic Substances Act: Graham Moore and Community Engagement Director, Jamie Morey.
They discuss the specifics of the initiative, listed on the ballot as the "Limited Legalization and Regulation of Certain Natural Psychedelic Substances," including the removal of criminal penalties for limited personal use, and the establishment of a regulatory agency that will provide therapeutic access to any of five natural psychedelics (psilocybin, psilocin, DMT, mescaline, and ibogaine). They tell their stories of how they discovered the power of psychedelics, and discuss the work they're doing, educating a fairly interested – but still very hesitant – public about the bill and the importance of it passing this November.
They talk about:
- The significance of this happening in Massachusetts, especially with the amount of biomedical research happening in Boston
- The story of a member of Baystaters creating a fraudulent persona in a veterans advocacy group to fight against legalization efforts
- The challenge of getting people to publicly support initiatives that deal with illegal substances
- The power of small steps in legislation: Before this bill, MA had the most local measures in the U.S.
- How data collection should be handled at service centers
and more!
If you live in Massachusetts, learn about the bill here, and make sure to get out and cast your vote in November.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everybody and welcome back to psychedelics today. |
| 0:12.0 | Joe Moore here. |
| 0:12.8 | Today on the show, we have Jamie in Graham, who are working to bring the Massachusetts |
| 0:17.2 | legalization bill over the line. |
| 0:19.7 | We're calling it question four at the state level, |
| 0:22.8 | and it looks pretty good. Best I can tell, I like it just about as much as the Colorado bill. |
| 0:29.6 | Didn't see any major differences. Maybe I like Colorado's a little more, but I think this is |
| 0:35.2 | really good for Massachusetts, and I hope you all learn a bunch and share this |
| 0:39.9 | with some friends who live in Massachusetts. I think it's really important that we educate folks |
| 0:43.8 | so we can see this move forward in a great way. All right, I think that's it. We'll see you on the |
| 0:49.0 | other side. |
| 0:53.5 | Hi, everybody. Welcome back to psychedelics today. Joe Moore here, joined by Jamie and Graham, |
| 0:58.3 | who are doing some impressive work in Massachusetts working on this ballot initiative. Is it a ballot |
| 1:05.3 | initiative? It is a ballot initiative, yes. Yeah. Well, actually, let's have you tell us about it. |
| 1:10.0 | What's going on over there in Massachusetts? Hi, Joe. So first of all, thank you so much for having me and Jamie |
| 1:15.3 | on the show. So what's going on in Massachusetts is we have a ballot measure that will be on the |
| 1:20.7 | ballot in November and on people's early ballots in October. It's question four. And it is the limited legalization regulation of natural psychedelics. |
| 1:32.3 | So specifically, what this ballot measure will do if passed is it will establish a new regulatory agency in Massachusetts |
| 1:41.2 | that within a two-year implementation period will provide regulated |
| 1:46.3 | therapeutic access to one of five natural psychedelics. Those substances are psilocybin, |
| 1:55.9 | silicin, dimethythotryptamine, better known as DMT, mescaline, and ibigain. |
| 2:03.5 | And the regulated access model here, as specified by the law, |
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