PT544 – Psychedelics and Addiction Recovery: Microdosing and Redefining the Path to Sobriety, with Danielle Nova
Psychedelics Today
Psychedelics Today, LLC
4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 3 September 2024
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Joe interviews Danielle Nova: founder of Psychedelic Recovery, founding team member of Decriminalize Nature Oakland, and Executive Director of the San Francisco Psychedelic Society.
As a recovering addict, Nova discusses how working with psychedelics helped her find her way to recovery, and how she's spreading that knowledge to others through her Psychedelic Recovery program, which focuses more on 'targeted abstinence,' instead of the total abstinence model of Psychedelics In Recovery (which works alongside AA's 12-step program). She believes that it's extremely important to reframe addiction as a life process or temporary state of consciousness (rather than a life sentence you can't escape), and that beating addiction is not about constantly being afraid of a relapse, but about evolving to a state of empowerment: that you can overcome it, and that actually, a horrific addiction may have saved you and brought you to where you're supposed to be.
She discusses:
- The complications of Western medicine and the impact of conflicting medications that are nearly impossible to stop taking
- How self-regulation of tough emotions with outside stimuli (be it drugs, pornography, or even video games) trains people to rely on external forces rather than themselves
- How addicts end up programing themselves with 'addict consciousness,' and the power of changing one's mind state to view suffering as the fuel for a new purpose
- How, over time, we will likely start viewing microdosing as a regular dose, and the large doses we're used to will be seen as overdosing
- How being part of her ayahuasca experience (and having one himself) completely changed her father's perspective on drugs and addiction
and more!
She has co-created Microdosing Facilitator Training with Adam Bramlage of Flow State Micro: a first-of-its-kind 4-month program teaching clinicians, facilitators, and coaches about microdosing and how to safely guide others through the practice. The next cohort launches in January 2025.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everybody. This is Joe Moore coming at you from Breckrange, Colorado. Today on the show, |
| 0:16.5 | we have Danielle Nova, who's doing some really interesting work. She just came out with a new microdosing training program for people who are kind of more on the service side. |
| 0:28.6 | There's some work she's doing at a group, Kevin Franciati, put together called Psychedelics in Recovery and and then psychedelic recovery and also has a good |
| 0:41.1 | amount of experience doing work at the San Francisco Psychedelic Society. So a major contributor to |
| 0:47.2 | the psychedelic space and very excited to have her on the show for her first time. So thanks for |
| 0:51.8 | joining us. I hope you enjoy it. And we'll see you on the other |
| 0:55.8 | side. Have fun. Vital. Our 12-month certificate in integrative psychedelic studies starts on |
| 1:05.2 | September the 17th. And we're really happy to announce that applications are extended for one more week. |
| 1:11.7 | So the deadline to apply is now Tuesday the 3rd of September. |
| 1:15.7 | And as a reminder, Vital is a process-oriented course with a deeply marked a disciplinary curriculum |
| 1:21.6 | that incorporates clinical, scientific and relational domains alongside indigenous, |
| 1:27.0 | shamanic and transpersonal wisdom traditions. |
| 1:30.2 | Vital is a vibrant community of students and alumni from around the world committed to merging |
| 1:35.9 | powerful inner work with expanded professional scope of practice. Through lectures and study groups |
| 1:42.5 | and webinars, elective modules, process papers and online |
| 1:46.6 | affinity groups, you'll have all the support you need to develop your own vision and model |
| 1:51.6 | for lifelong growth in this exciting field. And new for this fourth round of vital, we've introduced |
| 1:59.3 | five specialisation pathways where each student |
| 2:02.5 | chooses one specialisation area to graduate within. The five pathways are regenerative |
| 2:09.0 | business and leadership, depth and union perspectives, somatics and trauma, spiritual emergence, or |
| 2:15.7 | microdosing. We have also introduced a new mentorship program as an |
| 2:20.7 | intensive add-on for up to 20 students to enrich their 12-month vital journey through group |
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