PT529 – Difficult Conversations, the Need for Culturally Competent Care, and Why Representation Matters, with Sara Reed & Alex H. Robinson
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4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 12 July 2024
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of Vital Psychedelic Conversations, David interviews Sara Reed: Vital instructor, lecturer, and lead psychedelic research therapist at Imperial College London; and Alex H. Robinson: Vital student, integration coach and psilocybin facilitator for Heroic Hearts Project, and distinguished Army SOF combat Veteran with a decade of active duty service.
Reed has worked with MAPS to make clinical trial populations more diverse and is creating culturally sensitive Clinical Research Forms for future research trials, and Robinson spearheaded her unit's Cultural Support Team program and contributed to policy changes to help place women into traditionally male-centric Special Operations roles. Representing marginalized groups themselves, they're both passionate about making psychedelic therapy more inclusive and representative of the general population, and getting more practitioners up to speed to be able to deliver culturally competent care.
They discuss:
- The importance of having difficult conversations and calling out bad behavior
- The fallacy of zero-sum thinking: Doing something special for a smaller community doesn't take away from the main goal; it adds to it
- The benefit of being able to self-reflect and personalize content when most psychedelic education consists of one-sided lectures
- The challenge of getting people who don't feel represented to enroll in clinical trials, and how personal stories go a long way
and more!
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. Thank you for listening to psychedelics today. My name is David Drapkin, |
| 0:18.0 | and I'm the host of this episode which is a vital psychedelic conversation |
| 0:22.6 | which means we're bringing together a student from our vital course and an instructor |
| 0:27.1 | from our vital course to talk about something that's important so today we're in conversation |
| 0:31.6 | with Sarah Reid one of our instructors and Alex H. Robinson, one of our graduates from the second cohort. |
| 0:39.3 | The main gist of what we're talking about is race, identity, historically and systemically |
| 0:43.9 | marginalized groups and their lived experiences as women working in a male-dominated systems and |
| 0:49.2 | organizations and showing up as BIPOC, LGBTIA and veterans in the space. We talk about these being difficult |
| 0:56.9 | conversations and they need to be had regardless and we have to build the containers that are safe |
| 1:04.3 | enough, secure enough in order to hold space for these conversations because what we're trying to do |
| 1:09.7 | is make psychedelic therapy and research more inclusive and representative what we're trying to do is make psychedelic therapy and research |
| 1:11.8 | more inclusive and representative and we're trying to make more psychedelic practitioners |
| 1:17.3 | culturally competent to deliver culturally responsible care. All right. So Sarah Reed is a marriage |
| 1:25.8 | and family therapist from Kentucky, now based in London. |
| 1:29.3 | She's at the Centre for Psychiatric Research at Imperial College. |
| 1:32.8 | And there she's working on therapy manuals for gambling and opioid use disorder and an OCD trial with psilocybin. |
| 1:39.8 | She also worked on the MDMA therapy trial with PTSD for MAPS and Likos. |
| 1:46.8 | Alex is a student from Vital that has now moved to Oregon, has become licensed alicelluscybin facilitator there. |
| 1:55.0 | She's a special operations veteran, does a lot of work with Heroic Hearts Project. |
| 1:59.4 | She's also an organizational psychologist, leadership coach, and an awesome poet and writer. |
| 2:06.3 | Righty-ho, before we jump in, let me briefly tell you about Vital. |
| 2:10.3 | So this is our 12-month course starting in September. |
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