PT514 – Breaking Through Bureaucracy: Can D.C. Embrace Evidence-Based Drug Policy?, with Senator Tom Daschle and Charlie Panfil

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🗓️ 21 May 2024

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Joe interviews two members of The Daschle Group: Founder and CEO, Senator Tom Daschle; and Public Policy Advisor, Charlie Panfil.

As Senator Daschle served in the House of Representatives for eight years (starting in 1978) and the Senate for 21, he was deep in the War on Drugs at its peak, and thankfully, as seen with so many of his constituents in recent years, the data and personal stories of so many healed people has broken through the propaganda and made him a strong advocate for psychedelic-assisted therapy. While minds are changing and progress is happening before our eyes (the majority of substances the FDA is currently researching for psychiatric indications contain some form of psychedelic ingredient), government bureaucracy, a severe lack of communication between the FDA and DEA, and decades of lies are still massive roadblocks. How do we address all of this while advancing research?

They discuss:

The need to develop a partnership between the public and private sectors, mostly for the cost of treatments
The DEA's place in all of this: If they're essentially a law enforcement agency, why are they involved in the safety and efficacy of medical treatments?
The STATES Act, the Breakthrough Therapies Act, and how they can affect research
Why we need to move past relying on opioids, and instead, embrace a science-based drug policy

and more!

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0:00.0	Hello, everybody, Joe Moore here coming at you from Breckenridge, Colorado.
0:16.8	Today on the show, we have something a little different we have uh senator tom dashal a former
0:24.4	minority leader in the united states senate and i'm really excited he's somebody who uh has some
0:30.8	opinions on psychedelics we have yet to record this i'm about to record it in about an hour
0:34.9	i'm really excited um so he was from South Dakota, a senator from South Dakota, Democratic Party, and I believe
0:45.3	served for quite a while and then founded a firm, the DASHL group helping people with political
0:52.8	issues, I think to represent a few
0:55.2	groups in the psychedelic space. And I'm excited to have him here to share his perspectives on
1:00.9	what's going on in the Senate and what might happen with the federal government regarding
1:06.4	psychedelics. It's going to be an interesting conversation. So I hope you all enjoy it. Please tell your friends.
1:12.4	If you have any friends from South Dakota, definitely send them this one. And I can't wait.
1:17.3	So we'll see on the other side. I hope you enjoy it.
1:23.8	Hello, everybody. Welcome back to psychedelics today. This is going to be an interesting one,
1:29.9	our first ever former Senator, Senator Tom Dashel. How are you today?
1:34.5	Well, Joe, thanks for having us.
1:37.0	Yeah, thank you. Joined by Charlie Pentful as well from the Dashel Group. Thanks, Charlie
1:42.2	for joining us as well. Thanks for having me on, Joe.
1:45.2	Absolutely.
1:45.9	So I want to first give folks a little bit of background on you, Senator Dashel.
1:53.6	So I know you're a veteran yourself.
1:56.1	Can you talk briefly about your service?
1:58.9	Well, I served three years in the Air Force during the Vietnam
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