PT502 – Preserving Psychedelic Legacies: Shulgin Farm and the Shulgin Archive Project, with Keeper Trout
Psychedelics Today
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4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 9 April 2024
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Joe interviews Keeper Trout: archivist, author, photographer, co-founder of the Cactus Conservation Institute, and creator of Trout's Notes, a website compiling personal research and collected data to help ethnobotanical researchers.
From an interest in cactus taxonomy, Sasha Shulgin urged Trout to go through his files, resulting in a friendship, and eventually, an 8-year project of digitizing all of these files into the ever-evolving Shulgin Archive.
Trout discusses:
- His relationship with Sasha and The Shulgin Farm project, which aims to make the farm a community resource for therapy, research, events, and more
- The messiness of cactus taxonomy, and how he believes we're nearing the end of being able to properly identify cacti
- The perception of LSD as unnatural and why the natural vs. synthetic argument is largely political
- Why repealing the Controlled Substances Act is the path we should take over decriminalization or legalization
and more!
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everybody and welcome back to psychedelics today. This is Joe Moore coming at you from |
| 0:16.8 | Breckenriched Colorado. Today on the show, we have Keeper Trout, who is actively working as |
| 0:23.8 | an archivist at the Shulgin Farm. Shulgin's kept an amazing amount of records. Sasha was quite |
| 0:32.1 | meticulous. And I think we get into the history and the story here, so I don't go too far with |
| 0:36.7 | Keeper. But at Trout, we even get into some cactus stuff, some taxonomy issues, which actually, I think, are important issues to discuss because what if it played important points in fungi as well and other parts of biology and science? |
| 0:53.5 | Very important. The decriminalization conversation was quite |
| 0:56.9 | good for me as well. Yeah, and we really had a good time, and I hope we can have Keeper on again. |
| 1:02.6 | So please check out Keeper Trout's work. Thank you to Hover for helping us with the video here. |
| 1:10.0 | Ethan, it's beautiful. So thank you. And everybody should |
| 1:13.6 | check out the other Shulgin episodes on our YouTube. This one is a normal style psychedelics today |
| 1:21.5 | video, but we had some really great stuff in the other videos. Beautiful video of the lab, of their |
| 1:27.2 | library, of their property. I think |
| 1:28.7 | there was some drone footage as well. It was just super pretty. So please do check that out. |
| 1:32.5 | And thank you to the Shulgin Foundation for helping us coordinate all this stuff. It was beautiful |
| 1:38.0 | and really great to work with them. So hope we can do quite a bit more and get involved at the farm. |
| 1:45.3 | Learn more. |
| 1:45.9 | Reach out and see what you can do. |
| 1:47.6 | All right. |
| 1:47.9 | I think that's it for now. |
| 1:48.8 | Thank you all for tuning in. |
| 1:50.8 | And we'll see on the other side. |
| 1:56.1 | A quick update on classes and events. |
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