Hello everybody, welcome to psychedelics today. My name's David Drapkin, the host of this episode,

a conversation I had about a month ago with Wondrea, whose full name is Dr. Deyes Wondrea Pettington-Wasio,

formerly known as Dr. Andrea Pennington.

And Wondrea is an American integrated physician, now living in the south of France.

She's a psychedelic-assisted therapy facilitator and trainer. She runs retreats and is also the

creator of the cornstone process for conscious evolution. She's quite a big name

and a real innovator and a thinker that I don't think there's anyone out there that really

does what Wanderia is doing. Incredibly entrepreneurial, innovative and really that the crux of our

conversation is around authenticity and what actually

happens when one takes accountability responsibility for going into that space and we start off talking

about names so wanderers changed her name where did that come from from that ayahuasca journey

talking about that to begin with,

how identity evolves.

So that very famous TED talk that Wondre did, I think in 2019, around the topic of self-love.

And she sang a song at the end.

And that really reflects that beauty of authenticity being sung out, being expressed, and

newness kind of coming through, her stepping out the psychedelic closet.

And we then go into more of our clinical theoretical discussion on topics like addiction

and trauma, post-traumatic growth and resilience.

Some of the retreat she's worked on and how much of this process is informed by the

hero's journey in that framework of Joseph Campbell. We talk about some microdosing work that

she's involved with and what's it like writing 20 books and being prolific as a writer over the last

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