PT482 – Paul F. Austin – Behind the Scenes: A Conversation on Psychedelic Business, Media, and Education
Psychedelics Today
Psychedelics Today, LLC
4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 30 January 2024
⏱️ 73 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Joe speaks with Paul F. Austin: Founder & CEO of Third Wave, Founder of Psychedelic Coaching Institute, and host of Third Wave's The Psychedelic Podcast.
Recorded in-person at this year's reMind conference, this episode – a shared release with Third Wave – is a rare glimpse into the inner workings of both Psychedelics Today and Third Wave, with Joe and Paul reconnecting after early podcast appearances and interviewing each other about where they've come from and where they're going now that they're so many years into this. Paul breaks down Third Wave's history and new coaching training program, and Joe discusses Vital: Why he invested in Vital over an investment raise, what we've learned from the first two cohorts, how we've handled scholarships, and why sometimes losing money can be worth it if it's for the greater good.
They talk about the challenge of keeping the lights on while trying to create something new; the balance of running a media company while building out an educational platform; the importance of staying focused and ignoring the noise; the relationship-building they've seen from their students; why we need to welcome the corporate types we may be inclined to dismiss; and why seeding good actors in as many roles and communities as possible is vital to the growth of psychedelics.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody, welcome back to psychedelics today. This is Joe Moore coming at you from somewhere in the state of Washington. |
| 0:18.5 | I am introducing Paul Austin, CEO founder of Third Wave. We did |
| 0:25.7 | a fun podcast together when we were in Las Vegas for the Remind Conference. This episode was also |
| 0:31.9 | aired on his platform, Third Wave. I think it's called the Psychedelicic podcast now I think there was a change in the |
| 0:38.0 | name so check that out as well and today on the show we actually compare our programs we compare |
| 0:43.2 | vital and Paul's third wave coaching program and you know talk a little bit about our history together |
| 0:49.0 | we've known each other for quite a long time now and yeah it's fun It's a fun one because of all the compare and contrast and |
| 0:56.4 | you know, learning what's the right program for you. So check out what he's got going over at the |
| 1:02.6 | third wave. Check out the podcast and yeah, see if you like what he's got going on. All right, |
| 1:07.6 | everybody, I think that's it for now. Thanks for tuning into psychedelics today. We will see you on the other side. Appreciate you all. Bye-bye. |
| 1:18.0 | Here we are. Remind, Las Vegas. Paul Austin. How you doing? |
| 1:21.8 | 2023. It's been a journey. Oh, my gosh. It's been a lot of years. I feel like you're one of the first people I knew in the space, actually. Yeah, when we probably connected at maybe Horizons in 2016. After you showed me that photo last night of us, you know, playfully duking it out in 2017, I was like, yeah, I started, I mean, I started third wave in 2015, and then started going to conferences in 2016. |
| 1:45.4 | We probably met somewhere in that time because I know we traded. |
| 1:48.0 | We both started a podcast around the same time. |
| 1:50.6 | And early on, you were probably, you and Kyle were probably the 10th or 11th guest that I had |
| 1:55.8 | on the show. |
| 1:56.3 | And I know we did something on my courtesy back in 2016, 2017 for psychedelics today. |
| 2:01.6 | So it's interesting to see how the space is developed, how our respective platforms have |
| 2:08.9 | developed. |
| 2:09.6 | And we've found ourselves, I think, tracking on fairly similar paths, but with, you know, |
| 2:15.5 | some unique ways of approaching, whether it's training or media |
| 2:21.0 | or, you know, other things, philosophies. So I think that'll be a cool thing to, like, unpack and |
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