PT452 – Gül Dölen, MD, Ph.D. – Metaplasticity, Reopening Critical Periods, and Octopuses on MDMA
Psychedelics Today
Psychedelics Today, LLC
4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 17 October 2023
⏱️ 88 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
In this episode, Melanie Pincus, Ph.D. and Manesh Girn, Ph.D. once again take over hosting duties, this time interviewing Gül Dölen, MD, Ph.D.: Associate professor of Neuroscience and Neurology at the Johns Hopkins University, School of Medicine, and head of the Dölen lab.
Dölen largely researches the neuroscience behind social behaviors and is most known for her work in establishing how psychedelics reopen critical periods of learning, and that the true benefit of psychedelics could be in learning how best to reopen those critical periods, how long they're open for, and which therapeutic frameworks and integration practices could best take advantage of them. Her most recent research was giving MDMA to otherwise very asocial (and violent) octopuses to prove that a drastically different species would exhibit typical MDMA-inspired prosocial behavior. And, after discovering that all the classic psychedelics worked to reopen critical periods – that psychedelics are apparently the master key to opening these periods – she's now researching why, through the PHATHOM project (Psychedelic Healing: Adjunct Therapy Harnessing Opened Malleability).
You will likely learn a ton in this episode: why critical periods close as we get older and what may impede them from opening more often; how plasticity and metaplasticity relate to each other and why increased neuroplasticity isn't always a good thing; how the length of different psychedelic experiences relates to efficacy; why the different results of MAPS' and Compass Pathways' studies show the importance of therapy; how autism could be related to critical periods; why repeated psychedelic use may make it harder for one's brain to reset; and how important context is in the ability to reopen critical periods – especially around social learning.
Click here to head to the show notes page.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Hey, everybody. What's up? It's Joe here. Just wanted to let you know about an upcoming class we have going in Denver. We're actually producing a navigating psychedelics today edition for all of you out there that wants some in-person ed. So we just ran it in Miami, and it was an amazing success. And we're going to do it again in Denver on November |
| 0:21.4 | 10 and 11, and we would love to have you there. If you want to learn about it, psychedelics today.com |
| 0:26.7 | slash events, we are going to run through two days of material. We're actually even going to give |
| 0:33.0 | you an impressive breathwork experience that hopefully helps you understand that experience and how it's |
| 0:39.7 | useful. So anyway, go over to psychedelics.com slash events to learn more and we would love to see you there |
| 0:45.5 | in Denver, November 10 and 11. Bye-bye. Every year psychedelics are becoming more accepted into mainstream |
| 0:52.8 | culture and people all over the world are |
| 0:55.4 | asking themselves, how can I get the skills, foundations and tools to build a meaningful career |
| 1:00.4 | in psychedelics? Well, that is exactly where Vital comes in. Our 12-month interdisciplinary |
| 1:06.1 | practitioner training program is robust, inclusive, and most of all transformative, both personally and |
| 1:11.8 | professionally. While graduates have gone on to do many different things in psychedelic space, |
| 1:16.5 | like working at ketamine clinics, consulting in clinical trials, opening a retreat center, |
| 1:21.2 | starting their own coaching or wellness practice, and even launching a psychedelic media and |
| 1:25.8 | merchandise platform, and so much more. |
| 1:28.6 | Classes start January 23rd, and our application deadline is December the 20th. |
| 1:33.4 | But if you apply and enroll before November the 19th, you'll save $750 from tuition. |
| 1:39.2 | Head to Vital PsychedelicTraining.com to download our full course curriculum. |
| 1:43.6 | You can also check out our events page at Psychedelic Today.com to download our full course curriculum. You can also check out our |
| 1:45.7 | event page at psychedelic today.com to sign up for an upcoming Q&A session or to join an expert-led |
| 1:52.1 | topical taster webinar. Find out whether vital is the transformative journey you've been looking |
| 1:58.1 | for. Hello everyone, Minesh Gern, aka the psychedelic scientist here, |
| 2:03.4 | letting you know about a scheduling change for the second cohort of our eight-week, live-taught online |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Psychedelics Today, LLC, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Psychedelics Today, LLC and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.

