PT404 – Bob Wold & Eileen Brewer – Clusterbusters: The Horrors of Cluster Headaches and the Miracle of Psilocybin
Psychedelics Today
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4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 11 April 2023
⏱️ 86 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Joe lets Court Wing take lead in interviewing two of the leaders behind Clusterbusters: Founder and Executive Director, Bob Wold; and President, Eileen Brewer.
A long-time friend of the show, Court Wing has become our resident expert on chronic pain, writing articles about how psilocybin relieved his chronic pain, and hosting Timothy Furnish, MD & Joel Castellanos, MD in their episode about phantom limb pain. Now he speaks with Clusterbusters, a non-profit dedicated to educating people about the horrors of cluster headaches, funding ongoing research into new treatments, and normalizing the miracle that psilocybin has been to so many sufferers in alleviating their headaches.
Wold and Brewer discuss their past struggles (Wold is a cluster sufferer and Brewer has migraine disease) and discovering the amazing intervention of psychedelics; the battles they've gone through in spreading this knowledge; how using psychedelics is also helping people work through PTSD; the barriers that legal psilocybin is creating; the concept of schools having a drug education program; the research looking at cluster headaches and other headache diseases; their creation of the Pain And Psychedelics Association, and more. While cluster headache sufferers have a lot to be frustrated about; as psilocybin becomes more mainstream and more and more research is funded, they now have a lot of hope.
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| 0:00.0 | David here. When the sun sets on Bicycle Day this year, psychedelic researchers and practitioners from all over the world will begin to gather for the sixth iteration of Breaking Convention. |
| 0:11.1 | It will take place 20th to the 22nd of April at the University of Exeter in England. |
| 0:16.1 | I will be at breaking convention this year alongside my colleague Johanna and some psychedelics today volunteers. |
| 0:22.7 | So come and say hello to us and meet over 200 presenters from the forefront of different |
| 0:27.8 | psychedelic disciplines, such as emerging postgraduate students, groundbreaking researchers, philosophers, |
| 0:34.5 | celebrity chemists, clinicians, therapists, historians, legal professionals, |
| 0:38.8 | business people, musicians, cultural practitioners and theorists, artists and harm reductionists. |
| 0:45.4 | Headline speakers at BC23 include my psychologist Paul Stamerts, Mapps founder Rick Doblin, |
| 0:52.2 | psychologist Carl Hart, Beckley Foundation founder Amanda Fielding, |
| 0:56.5 | and neurobiologist and chemist William Leonard Pickard. |
| 0:59.6 | To purchase your breaking convention tickets, go to breakingconvention.co.org. |
| 1:06.0 | And use the code, Psych Today, BC10 to get 10% off at checkout. See you there. |
| 1:17.7 | Hey everybody. Welcome back to psychedelics today. This is Joe Moore coming out. You're from |
| 1:24.8 | Breck and Ridge, Colorado. Today on the show we have Bob Wold, Eileen Brewer, and Court Wing, and we get to talk about cluster busters and a new organization |
| 1:34.8 | we're actually working on to cover pain and psychedelics in the space. So stay tuned if you're |
| 1:41.0 | interested in developments around, you know, cluster headaches, pain management, |
| 1:45.8 | and much more. We get a lot of history on cluster busters here. Cluster busters has been a |
| 1:51.7 | amazingly resilient organization that's been around for decades, working to help folks suffering from just really, really horrible headaches. |
| 2:05.5 | The cluster headache topic is unbelievable. |
| 2:08.0 | You really wouldn't believe a non-experience or talking about it if you didn't first hear |
| 2:15.0 | somebody who had these things talking about it. |
| 2:17.1 | They're the most unbearable things that we know about. |
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