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PT397 – Dr. Devon Christie & Emefa Boamah – Vital Psychedelic Conversations

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Life Sciences, Science, Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.6598 Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2023

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Vital Psychedelic Conversations, David interviews Vital instructor, Dr. Devon Christie: Senior Lead of Psychedelic Programs at Numinus, MAPS-certified MDMA therapist, and now four-time guest; and Vital student, Emefa Boamah: coach, facilitator, and trauma-informed intuitive guide specializing in embodiment. 

We've all heard the trope, "It's all in your mind," but it's also in your heart, soul, community, support system, and body - the focus of this episode. Christie and Boamah dive deep into the various aspects of the relationship between non-ordinary states and our bodies: ways to embody our bodies more; how the body is a fundamental source of truth; the benefit of checking in with one's body after an experience (to validate or disprove what may have come up); the importance of movement and rest; the different bodies we inhabit (physical, emotional, energetic, mental, and spiritual); and ways to accept (and eventually love) our bodies in a society that's always working to make us hate them – is self-love the ultimate act of defiance?

They also discuss the post-experience plasticity in everything, and the challenge of preparing an experiencer for something we can't know; how facilitators and practitioners need to track their own subconscious feelings and reactions; the concept of embodied inquiry; the necessity of remaining curious and humble; and the idea of using integrative practices to find ways to become the person you want to be – the person you may have seen glimpses of in non-ordinary states. 

And as this year's edition comes to an end, Boamah reflects on her experiences with Vital, particularly the communal aspects of the retreat and how healing it was to literally be lifted up by her companions. Head to the show notes to see a video showcasing some of the Vital experience, and if you're curious about whether Vital is right for you, please come to an upcoming Q+A. Applications close March 19!

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, welcome to psychedelics today. It's David Drabkin here in a vital psychedelic conversation with Dr.

0:19.7

Devin Christi and Emepha Boama.

0:22.3

This is another vital student and vital teacher podcast. So loved it. We had such a good time.

0:28.7

Lots of laughter, a couple of little tears and lots of moving our bodies as we were talking

0:33.7

because we were mainly talking about what's it like having a body and why do we have a

0:38.3

body? What is our body teaching us and how do we be embodied? And it's a radical statement to

0:43.8

actually occupy our body and seeing ourselves as multidimensional being. So we're not just brains

0:49.4

that talk and this is not just talk therapy. This is a multidisciplinary, holistic, really deep spiritual process of using psychedelics

1:00.2

and supporting people that use psychedelics as well.

1:04.0

And definitely listen out for Empha talking about her breathwork retreat she did on her vital

1:08.5

course in Costa Rica.

1:10.1

It just sounded amazing. Their bios read as

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such. Dr. Devin Christie is a medical doctor, functional medicine practitioner and registered

1:19.8

counselor with a focused practice in chronic pain and mental health. She's a map certified

1:25.5

MDMA therapist currently researching MDMA assisted therapy for

1:28.8

chronic pain. Devon delivers ketamine-assisted psychotherapy at Numinous, and she also serves there as

1:35.3

senior lead of psychedelic programs, developing and implementing psychedelic treatment and therapist training

1:41.0

programs. Emmefa is the founder of Emepfa-Bohama Embodiment's coaching,

1:47.2

where she serves as a coach,

1:49.2

master embodiment facilitator,

1:51.4

trauma-informed intuitive guide and speaker.

1:54.6

She is also a vital student who aspires to use psychedelics

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