Hey everybody. Welcome back to psychedelics today. This is Joe Moore coming at you from Breckenridge, Colorado.

Today on the show, we have Kimberly head head of the ketamine task force. Kimberly's

retired from the Air Force, a nurse practitioner, and midwife, and has a lot of really interesting

personal experience around chronic regional pain syndrome, CRPS, and has been getting tremendous

relief from ketamine and is now organizing at the national level trying to get ketamine approved

for insurance reimbursement, you know, better reimbursement for pain, better reimbursement.

If anything's better than what we have now for psychiatric, psychological reimbursement around

ketamine, assisted psychotherapy and assorted treatments.

So ketamine is amazing, magical, really helpful, legal and available now, and can be really

cheap if you get it the right way. So I'm really excited about this project Kimberly's working on and

actually got to meet Kimberly twice. Once at the Salt Lake City

conference, we actually shared. We were table neighbors, so we got to spend a lot of time

together. And this was the RCCC Rising Community, Rising Consciousness Community Conference,

I think. And then also in Miami, somewhat recently, I think two months ago.

And yeah, this is a really cool one.

I really appreciate Kimberly coming on and the help we got from some of our mutual friends to get this coordinated.

Kimberly and I have been trying to record for maybe nine months now.

So finally got it done, recorded today on May 24. This should

come out just a few days later. Really just grateful. And this episode is coming out shortly before

the United States celebrates Memorial Day. It's a veteran holiday. And yeah, this is a veteran episode.

So Kimberly, thank you for being here. Thank you for your service. And thank you all for tuning in.

This is a really important topic to me. And chronic pain has been showing up a ton on the show

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