Hello, everybody, welcome back to psychedelics today. This is your host, Kyle Buller. Today on the show, I get to chat with Dr. Carleen McMillan, CEO and co-founder over at Brooklyn Mines.

In today's episode, we get to chat about ketamine and some of the work that they're doing

over at Brooklyn Mines, Spravato. You may know that as S-Ketamine, the importance of insurance,

set setting, and systems, and also exploring some alternative treatment options outside of insurance.

Really, really interesting conversation. I think you're going to enjoy it. I'll let Dr.

McMillan give her own little intro as we get rolling here. So some reminders, we are kicking

off our navigating psychedelics for clinicians and therapist course starting September 23rd.

This is probably going to be our last cohort for the year.

So if you're thinking about signing up, be sure to sign up for this one in September.

We're taking a little break just because of the holiday season and we probably won't have another course until the new year.

So if you have been thinking about taking it, you want to get in before the holiday,

definitely, definitely sign up.

We still have some spaces available.

You can check that out at psychedelic education center.com.

And again, for those that may just be tuning in, navigating psychedelics is an eight-week online hybrid course. You get access

to tons and tons of online material, pre-recorded material, masterclasses and interviews with

experts in the space. And then you join us on Zoom for an hour and a half for eight weeks to

dive into that material, to have group discussions, have that classroom time.

And also one of my favorite parts about the class is the group project, or it's not a group

project, but it's an individual project. It's your integration project. And I just always

really love seeing what our students are putting together and moving their experience forward.

So that's always a real joy to create that container for people to explore their own process a little bit. If you are in

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