Hello, everybody, welcome back to psychedelic states.

This is Joe Moore coming at you from Brecker Range, Colorado.

Today on the show, we have two psychiatrists

from the new Massachusetts General Hospital Psychedelic Program focusing largely on neuroimaging

and some other really cool things. We get into some of that in a bit. The two doctors are

Dr. Franklin King and Dr. Fernando S. B. Foursen. And this is just a really

fun episode for me. We got Franklin and I have known each other for a bunch of years now and

really just excited that I was finally able to get him on the show. And Fernando, just really

great getting to know Fernando.ando we we had a phone call

month or so ago and it was really fun and um yeah i'm just excited to get both of them on the show

together i think this was a it's a really interesting one because we we get into this kind of

difference between this uh biomedical model biophysical model, versus something different.

And I think you'll like it.

If you don't, feel free to send me some hate mail, it's fine.

Anyway, thank you again to both Fernando and Franklin.

Just really excited.

And thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you for coming on.

And hope when i'm home in

new hampshire at some point in the summer we can link up so thank you all for tuning in in case

you haven't been listening to the podcast we launch in the next round of navigating psychedelics

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