Hello, everybody, welcome back to Sagitt Alex today.

This is Joe Moore coming at you from Bracken Ridge, Colorado.

Today on the show, we have Ralph Blumenthal, Michelle, and I get the opportunity to interview

him a couple weeks ago, and we wanted to actually rush the release of this because it's really

interesting and really timely.

So Ralph probably is most famous for breaking a lot of the reports of Navy pilots discussing UFO phenomenon or, you know, what unidentified aerial phenomena is what they like to call it now, UAP, and into the New York Times.

Really interesting character.

The real reason we have Ralph on the show is to talk about his recent biography of Dr. John Mack.

If you don't know who Dr. John Mack is, he is an amazing Harvard psychiatrist, now deceased,

unfortunately.

He found an interesting bridge in between psychiatry and,

I guess UFO experiencers is what they like to be called.

And really just a fascinating, fascinating deal.

And Dr. Stan Groff is in the mix,

Holterbriced breathworks in the story as well.

So there's a lot going on here.

So Ralph is a staff writer at the Times, New York Times.

He's got a ton of awards to his name, Guggenheim Fellowship, 2001. Yeah, a distinguished lecturer

at Baruch College of the City, University of New York. Yeah, won a number of awards at New York Times

while he was there. I think he wrapped up his career there in 2009 based on his website's bio.

He wrote a number of books in organized crime and cultural history. He led the Times Metro team

that won the Pulitzer Prize for breaking news coverage in the, of the 93

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