Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Segadilex today. This is Joe Moore coming at you from Breckenrich, Colorado.

Today on the show, we have Carl Hart. Amazing individual

wrote the book Drug Use for Grownups. Psychedelics today did a giveaway on a hard time

of the book and gave away five copies. And I just really, really, really believe in this book.

And I think you should read it.

It's essential, in my opinion, for those of us in this movement.

Because there's a lot of judgment about people who use other drugs.

And perhaps we should not have those.

Perhaps this is all artifice and horrible stuff left over from Prohibition, the drug war, and much more.

So, yeah, the origins of the drug were horrifying and we need to understand them.

But even better, let's understand drug use for adults.

So for grown-ups, sorry. And yeah, I read this

book nearly two times and planned to, you know, read it a few more times. Probably going to do a

few more giveaways on R-dime as well just because we believe in the book so much so stay tuned for that kind of

stuff really really grateful that carl heart came out for this and spent so much time with us

we recorded for nearly two hours so strap in this is going to be quite the podcast we go all over

the map and really dig in on a lot of important topics.

And yeah, so again, Carl Hart, thank you.

You're such an inspiration.

And yeah, just so influenced by your work and just very grateful.

So people can come out of the closet about your drug use. That's like

the main ask, come out of the closet. I did it recently with my old work colleagues. I actually

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