Hello everybody, welcome back to psychedelics today. This is your host, Kyle Buller. Today on the show, I have the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Michael Sapiro.

If you haven't stumbled across Dr. Sapiro's work before, you can go back into our

archive, check it out. Joe did an interview with him probably over a little bit of a year ago.

We'll link that up in the show notes. And for those who don't know who Dr. Shapiro is,

I'm going to read a little bit of his bio. So Dr. Sapiro is a clinical psychologist, Dharma teacher, writer, meditation, researcher, and former Buddhist monk.

He's on a faculty at Esselin Institute and is a fellow at the Institute of Noetic Sciences and is completing a study on time travel, hope, and love with Dr. Julia Mossbridge of the Institute of Love and Time.

Dr. Sapiro completed his postdoctoral fellowship in advanced psychology at the Boise VA Medical Center,

where he specialized in rural health, PTSD, and combat trauma.

Dr. Sapiro is often on podcasts and teaches nationally

on the art and science of transformation, expanded human capabilities, self-care, non-dual

meditation for personal and community growth. His work integrates meditation practices,

psychology, noetic sciences, and social justice,

and is dedicated to personal awakening for the sake of collective and planetary transformation.

And you can find more of his work at Michael Sapiro.com.

That's M-I-C-H-A-E-L-S-A-P s a p i r o dot com yeah i'm really excited about this interview and i really hope

that it's it's helpful for you i know that i found it to be a really helpful discussion just

you know i feel like it's very timely for what is going on in the world.

And yeah, Michael reached out a little bit ago saying he was on a little pilgrimage,

a little retreat, and he just wanted to kind of check in and share some wisdom.

And really kind of like what he put out there and said, yeah, let's get you back on the show.

And his plug was,

how does mysticism, you know, how can we bring the mystical into the ordinary? And so, you know, we're going to name this episode, engage spirituality, bringing the mystical into the ordinary.

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