I mean the only reason we get mad is because when we hit a bad shot, we're probably scared to hit another one. I mean, you can shake off one, but so that's, start hitting it left, you're worried about hitting the next one left, or you're thinking of other holes that have trouble on the left, but it's just you got to treat each shot like a new shot. And yeah, I tend to find myself sometimes if I've been hitting it left, the next one goes right, and the next one goes left. So kind of over-compancyting. But, I mean, there could be a number of reasons why you hit that one left. It just means you're going to hit everyone left, but it's hard to get that out of your head. That was a taste, or a tease of what you'll hear from Kevin Tway in today's show. When we recorded this conversation with featured guests Carrie Valentine,

the intention was to do just one episode,

but he was able to gather so much great information and insights

while at both 2020 Hawaii PGA tour stops,

it was only fair to break it into two segments.

Also, Carrie had forgotten to send me the interview that he did with Xander Shoffley until after we

recorded our conversation. That's why I included it at the end of this without Carrie's commentary.

So today, we'll hear Golf Smarter exclusive interviews not heard anywhere

else from PGA Tour pros Kevin Tway, James Hahn, and Zander Shoffley. And it doesn't matter

which order you listen, but if you've not heard last week's podcast featuring Graham McDowell,

Paul Asinger, Fabian Gomez, and Anabar Lahiri.

Please check out episode number 727.

But first, Part 2 Inside the Ropes with PGA Tour Pros on their success, failures, and mental games.

This is Golf Smarter.

Sharing stories, tips, and insights from great golf minds to help you lower your score

and raise your golf IQ.

Here's your host, Fred Green.

Oh, Carrie, these conversations are so great.

I really enjoy this, and we get a lot of attraction from the podcast audience. They love hearing

these too. So thank you again for sharing these with us. Oh, my joy. And it, you know,

it brings me a great delight knowing we're going, you know, when I'm interviewing these guys

going, ah, this will be cool. Fred will dig this. So it's a joy for me too, Fred. Tell me a little bit about

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