PT 648 - Enamory - Couples Therapy with Ketamine
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🗓️ 10 February 2026
⏱️ 83 minutes
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Summary
Enamory is a clinical practice, training institute, and nonprofit research organization focused on psychedelic assisted couples therapy. In this episode, clinical psychologists Chandra Kian and Kayla Knopp discuss their work integrating ketamine assisted psychotherapy with evidence based couples therapy models.
Both guests trained as academic researchers at the University of California San Diego Veterans Affairs system, where they worked on large scale couples based PTSD trials. They later co founded Enamory to continue clinical work, train therapists, and conduct research focused specifically on relationships.
Early Themes in Enamory and Couples Therapy
The conversation begins with Dr. Kian and Dr. Knopp describing their background in couples based PTSD research and how that work shaped their clinical approach.
They explain how existing couples therapy models often stall when partners cannot soften, access vulnerability, or understand each other's internal experience. Their early exposure to MDMA assisted therapy research highlighted how psychedelic states can temporarily reduce defensiveness and rigid narratives.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome back to psychedelics today. This is Joe Moore. Today, Kyle Buller records with Dr. |
| 0:25.3 | Chandra Kian and Dr. Kayla Nope, co-founders of Enamory, a clinical practice and training institute focused on psychedelic-assisted couples therapy. |
| 0:34.6 | Chandra and Kayla are licensed clinical psychologists with backgrounds in academic research, |
| 0:39.3 | including large-scale couples-based PTSD trials through the VA system. |
| 0:44.3 | Their work bridges evidence-based couples therapy with ketamine-assisted psychotherapy with a strong |
| 0:49.3 | emphasis on assessment, integration, and ethical clinical practice. |
| 0:53.3 | In this conversation, they explore how psychedelic states can support relational healing, |
| 0:58.8 | common stuck patterns in couples, different ketamine dosing models, |
| 1:02.9 | and what it takes to train therapists to do this work well. |
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