PT 642 - Michael Sapiro PhD - Truth Medicine, Psychedelics, and Living Your Truth
Psychedelics Today
Psychedelics Today, LLC
4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 28 November 2025
⏱️ 73 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Michael Sapiro joins Kyle Buller to explore truth, healing, and psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy through the lens of his new book, Truth Medicine. A clinical psychologist, ordained Zen Buddhist monk, retreat leader, and fellow at the Institute of Noetic Sciences, he blends Buddhist psychology, trauma work, and consciousness studies. The discussion focuses on how people discover and live their truth, and why that truth becomes the core medicine in healing.
Early in the Podcast with Michael Sapiro
Michael describes how years of clinical work and retreat facilitation shaped his understanding of healing. Real transformation happens when people speak truths they have never allowed themselves to say out loud. These truths often relate to childhood experiences, identity, and how people learned to stay safe.
Key early themes include insight into:
• Truth as a physical and emotional "ring" in the body
• Personas formed in childhood to avoid rejection
• Depression and anxiety caused by living from those personas
The conversation explores how frightening it can be to challenge old roles and family narratives, yet how necessary it is for authentic healing.
Core Insights from Michael Sapiro
Michael outlines his model of preparation, psychedelic sessions, and integration, especially in ketamine-assisted psychotherapy. Preparation often includes discovering what he calls the "heart of the hurt" and building trust for the internal process.
Core insights include:
• Tracing patterns back to their origins in early experience
• Using guided imagery, breathwork, and somatic awareness to practice surrender
• Understanding healing as applying love to wounded parts
• Understanding growth as becoming who you would be without old limits
Additional points:
• Medicine sessions create real practice in letting go
• Defenses should be engaged with, not fought
• Sensations in the body offer essential guidance
Later Discussion and Takeaways with Michael Sapiro
Michael compares one-on-one psychotherapy with retreat work. In group settings he holds space and supports safety, while in individual sessions he uses a blend of silence and active therapeutic guidance.
He also shares personal truth work, including embracing his own "bigness," understanding ethics as part of spirituality, and learning to endure anxiety without falling into shame. Listeners gain practical guidance for nurturing wounded parts, developing the ability to endure challenging states, and allowing their strengths to emerge.
Frequently Asked Questions
Who is Michael Sapiro?
Michael Sapiro is a clinical psychologist, ordained Zen Buddhist monk, psychedelic psychotherapist, retreat leader, and research fellow at the Institute of Noetic Sciences.
What is the main idea of Truth Medicine by Michael Sapiro?
Truth Medicine teaches that discovering and living one's personal truth is the core of healing, with psychedelics serving as a tool that helps reveal and embody that truth.
How does Michael Sapiro use ketamine in therapy?
He uses ketamine within a structured model involving preparation, supportive dosing sessions, and integration focused on compassion, endurance, and meaningful change.
Does he only work in group settings?
No. He leads retreats, but much of his work is individual psychedelic psychotherapy focused on trauma, personal truth, and growth.
What can clinicians learn from his approach?
Clinicians can learn how to balance guided intervention with open space, work directly with defenses, and support healing as both love and action.
Closing Thoughts
This conversation with Michael Sapiro offers a grounded, practical view of how truth, compassion, and psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy can support real change in the current psychedelic resurgence. By blending body awareness, ethical clarity, and personal growth, this episode provides useful guidance for therapists, guides, and seekers who want to bring more truth medicine into their lives and communities.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everybody, and welcome back to SegadLX today. This is Joe Moore. Today on the show, we have Dr. Michael |
| 0:24.5 | Sapiro to talk about his new book, Truth Medicine. Really excited that he has a new book. Finally, has a great book overlooking a lot of this work he's been doing for ages and ages in the psychedelic space. |
| 0:38.0 | He's been a friend and a colleague for a long time and just really grateful that he works with us |
| 0:45.0 | here and Vital sometimes. Yeah, been on the show a whole bunch, which is great. And yeah, |
| 0:50.6 | Dr. Michael Shapiro is a Zen Buddhist monk, poet, clinical psychologist, psychedelic psychotherapist, |
| 0:58.8 | meditation teacher, and more, I think he's working on a pilot's license. |
| 1:03.2 | Maybe he has that already. |
| 1:04.7 | Does ketamine-assisted psychotherapy travels a lot. |
| 1:08.6 | And, yeah, is one of my favorite folks in the space his work at the |
| 1:13.4 | institute of noetic studies is very interesting and uh i think i think you know years ago i remember |
| 1:23.1 | being on the road driving we were doing our first ever phone call i was was like, you know, I think, I think this guy has the career I wanted when I was younger. |
| 1:33.2 | That's pretty cool to see that he's doing it and the way he's doing it. |
| 1:36.5 | And I just love how he's showing up. |
| 1:38.3 | You can follow him at Dr. Mike Boise underscores between those. |
| 1:42.0 | Dr. |
| 1:42.6 | underscore Mike underscore Boise, B-O-I-S-E, to find him on Instagram, |
| 1:48.1 | MichaelSapiro.com to find his website. |
| 1:50.6 | And again, the book is truth, medicine. |
| 1:53.3 | Please check it out. |
| 1:54.5 | It's really, really great. |
| 1:56.3 | I'm excited to bring that into Book Club, actually. |
| 1:59.3 | All right. |
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