PT 633 - Dreamshadow - Life and Breath
Psychedelics Today
Psychedelics Today, LLC
4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 15 October 2025
⏱️ 82 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Kyle and Joe sit down with filmmaker Mustapha Khan and Dreamshadow's Elizabeth & Lenny Gibson to explore Life and Breath—a new documentary immersing viewers in the experience and community of Holotropic Breathwork. We talk about why Mustapha was drawn to Dreamshadow, the film's cinéma vérité approach that places you "in the room," and how years of facilitation informed what became both an archival record and a living portrait of transformation. Elizabeth and Lenny reflect on 35+ years of holding space, the role of curiosity over agenda, and why genuine community—not just catharsis—is central to lasting growth. Kyle and Joe share personal reactions from a Breckenridge screening, the emotions it stirred, and how this work has shaped Psychedelics Today. We close on hope, relationship, and the power of gathering to remember who we are. Keep an eye out for upcoming screenings and Q&As with the team behind Life and Breath.
Life and Breath won first place at the Psychedelic Film and Music Festival!
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody, Joe Moore here. Today we have a special episode. This is about the film Life and Breath. |
| 0:27.2 | It's a film by Mustafa Khan, who took it upon himself to do a documentary about Dream Shadow in Vermont, |
| 0:35.2 | where Kyle and I got a lot of education, we'll call it. |
| 0:41.0 | And it's a stunning documentary. |
| 0:43.6 | I suggest you watch it. |
| 0:45.3 | We're joined today with Mustafa Khan, Lenny Gibson and Elizabeth Gibson, along with Kyle, |
| 0:51.4 | Buller and I. |
| 0:52.6 | And we talk about the film, talk about what the process was like, |
| 0:57.0 | talk about anything that was revealed through the process of making the film. |
| 1:01.7 | It's something I think y'all will like. |
| 1:05.0 | So enjoy if you watch the film. |
| 1:09.1 | Also, we did this podcast because they will be in the near future |
| 1:12.6 | screening the film in Santa Monica, California. So if you're in the greater LA area, maybe check it out. |
| 1:22.0 | Details are in the show and it'll be on our show notes as well. So hope you do take a moment to do |
| 1:27.4 | that. If you like what we do here, |
| 1:29.9 | there's a few ways to support us. Kyle and I do need support in keeping this project alive and well. |
| 1:37.4 | You can join our navigators community, community.com, or psychedelics today.com or psychedelics today.com slash navigators. |
| 1:45.5 | And you can learn more about our program. |
| 1:47.8 | And we would love to have you in there. |
| 1:49.1 | We're doing book clubs, private membership events, private discussions, masterminds, |
| 1:56.1 | and much more. |
| 1:57.6 | So check out what we do in there. |
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