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PT 602 - Iboga - Talia Eisenberg, Tom Feal, Dr. Lola "Dr. O" Hoba, Kevin Franciotti

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Life Sciences, Science, Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.6598 Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Aspen Psychedelic Symposium 2024 – Hosted by Kevin Franciotti

This powerful panel explores the healing potential and complex responsibilities that come with working with Ibogaine, a potent plant-based psychedelic. Moderator Kevin Franciotti guides a heartfelt and informative conversation with Talia Eisenberg, Tom Feegel, and Dr. Lola "Dr. O" Hoba, highlighting personal transformation, medical protocols, and the importance of honoring traditional knowledge.

Personal Journeys with Ibogaine

Talia Eisenberg shares her recovery from opioid addiction and the founding of BEOND Ibogaine, a medical treatment center in Cancun, Mexico. Her story illustrates the plant's unique power to interrupt addiction and awaken purpose. Tom Feegel, co-founder and CEO of BEOND, shares how his own trauma and long-term sobriety inspired a vision for a safe, respectful, and medically supervised environment for deep healing.

Clinical and Cultural Wisdom

Dr. Lola Hoba offers insights as a pharmacist and Yoruba herbalist, bridging traditional plant medicine knowledge with modern pharmacology. She describes how iboga works on multiple brain receptors and why it holds so much promise for treating addiction, depression, and trauma. She also cautions about its cardiac risks and calls for respectful, trained facilitation.

Safety, Access, and Sustainability

Panelists discuss the rigorous safety protocols at BEOND, including ICU-level care, psychiatric screening, and pre-treatment evaluations. They also explore broader questions: How can this medicine be offered responsibly? What does reciprocity mean in practice? BEOND supports Blessings of the Forest, a nonprofit in Gabon that works to stop poaching and protect Indigenous access to the sacred root.

A Call for Balance and Respect

This conversation highlights the importance of blending science, spirit, and social justice. From trauma healing to sustainable sourcing, each panelist emphasizes the need for compassion, caution, and connection. As laws change and access grows, the panel urges all involved to move forward with care—for the medicine, the people it serves, and the cultures that have stewarded it for generations.


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0:00.0

Hello, everybody, and welcome back to psychedelics today.

0:03.6

Joe Moore here.

0:04.9

Today on the show, we bring you yet another conversation, a panel discussion from the Aspen

0:10.5

Psychedelic Symposium.

0:12.3

This was a real treat of a talk.

0:16.0

The title was Ibogaine, the promise, the protocol, and protecting the sacred.

0:23.6

And it had a good cast of characters. Kevin Frank Yachti was the moderator. He's been on the show a handful of times, and

0:30.6

we had the two founders of Beyond, one of the most well-known Ibegian clinics in the world, as far as I can know.

0:41.4

And then we also, yeah, and sorry, their names were Tali Eisenberg and Tom Fiegel.

0:47.4

They're the co-founders at Beyond in Cancun.

0:51.3

And then we also had Dr. Lola Hoba, better known as Dr. O, a Yoruba-born pharmacist and educator who

1:00.3

brings both scientific and indigenous wisdom to her teachings on plant medicine. And we

1:07.0

get to watch this group cover a lot of things and they talked a lot about the potentials

1:15.6

for ibegain the importance of medical safety and aftercare and the need for reciprocity

1:21.0

with the communities that have carried this medicine for generations let's get into it i hope you

1:27.2

all enjoy and learn a bunch about Ibegain in the process.

1:30.2

All right.

1:30.6

Thank you all for tuning in.

1:32.2

We'll see you on the other side.

1:33.5

Enjoy.

1:34.8

It was actually very, it's very humbling to be following that presentation about this,

1:40.5

this medicine from a Gabonese native.

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