PT 593 - Vince Kadlubek - Meow Wolf & PORTAL
Psychedelics Today
Psychedelics Today, LLC
4.6 • 598 Ratings
🗓️ 4 April 2025
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
In this inspiring and far-reaching conversation, Joe Moore is joined by Vince Kadlubek, the founder and Chief Visionary Officer of Meow Wolf, the groundbreaking arts and entertainment company known for its massive, immersive art experiences. Together, they dive deep into Meow Wolf's humble DIY origins, its evolution into a multi-city creative juggernaut, and how it intertwines with psychedelic culture and expanded states of consciousness.
Vince shares the story of Meow Wolf's formation in Santa Fe, the evolution from a group of passionate friends into a thousand-person company, and the power of belief, creativity, and visionary leadership. He reflects on raising funding from George R. R. Martin and major investors, navigating massive growth, and the challenge of keeping the creative spark alive in the face of institutionalization.
They also discuss the upcoming Bicycle Day Portal Takeover at Meow Wolf Denver on April 19, which will feature performances, talks, and immersive experiences throughout the exhibition—with appearances from Reggie Watts, Duncan Trussell, Zach Leary, and more.
From the imaginative to the esoteric, Vince and Joe explore the intersection of psychedelics and art, the nature of reality and the imaginal realm, and how to build beauty and wonder into the world around us.

🌀 Topics Covered
- What Meow Wolf is and how it all began
- Growing from a DIY collective to a nationwide phenomenon
- Maintaining creative spirit through growth and structure
- Vision, belief, and the spiritual work of creating art
- Navigating private equity and big funding in the arts
- Santa Fe's unique cultural and energetic imprint
- Portal's Bicycle Day event at Meow Wolf Denver
- Fictional character sentience and AI in immersive worlds
- Art as a cultural response in times of uncertainty
- Psychedelics as tools for accessing the imaginal and creative realms
Bicycle Day at Meow Wolf Denver – April 19
Hosted by Portal, this one-of-a-kind immersive celebration of Bicycle Day takes over the entire Meow Wolf Denver space. Expect DJs, speakers, psychedelic storytelling, ecstatic dance, art, and surprises around every corner.
Featured Guests Include:
- Reggie Watts
- Duncan Trussell
- LP GIOBI (Dead House)
- Zach Leary
- David Satori (Dirtwire)
- Frick Frack Blackjack
- Dennis Walker
- Veronica Lightning Horse Perez
- …and many more to be announced!
🌀 Plus: Pre-event Bicycle Day bike ride through Denver, curated by Portal.
📍 More Info
- Learn more about Meow Wolf
- Check out Portal Events for Bicycle Day details
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hi everybody, Joe Moore here. Welcome back to Psychedelics. Today on the show, we have Vince Cadlebeck from Meow Wolf. He's currently the chief visionary officer over there and has spent four years as the CEO at Meow Wolf in the past. We're here to talk about origins of Meow Wolf, how it all played out, |
| 0:38.7 | how the ideas came up at first. And most presciently, there's a bicycle day event at the Denver |
| 0:44.9 | location, Meow Wolf. And I'm very excited. It's going to be a bicycle day event. And there's |
| 0:51.2 | going to be a paired bicycle ride. The group portal is putting it on. |
| 0:55.3 | Go to you are the portal.com to learn more about that. I'm going to be there. So many really |
| 1:00.1 | interesting guests are going to be there. And I'm just beyond excited because I thought it was |
| 1:05.3 | just going to be a simple concert, but they're actually taking advantage of the whole space. |
| 1:09.2 | So that's going to be spectacular. And not only that, but a bicycle ride through Denver. Check out, you are the portal.com to learn more. I'm excited. I can't wait for it. I have not really been able to be around for a bicycle day in Colorado for a handful of years. So excited for my first one in a bunch of years. Hope to see you there. And thank you, |
| 1:28.8 | Vince, for being on the show. I really appreciated your time and storytelling. There's a lot of really |
| 1:34.1 | good stuff there. And I was having some psychedelic experiences just listening to you speak. So, |
| 1:40.0 | thanks for that. All right. On with the episode and we'll see you after a few messages. |
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| 2:27.6 | Joe Moore here, Psychedelics today, joined by Vince Kettlewick from Miao Wolf, founder and Chief Visionary Officer. How are you today, Vince? Hey, I'm good. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. Really, really glad you're able to make time. This is fun. So we're going to talk about a few things and also talk about the upcoming Bicycle Day event at Meow Wolf, Denver. And that's going to be a really cool event. Can't wait to be there and excited to dig in. |
| 2:51.8 | So can you tell us somehow, it turns out, not everybody in the world knows about Meow Wolf yet. |
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