No, it's not even that you weren't good. You were good. It's just that you were like really picking your spots, which is what I told you to do anyway, but not that many spots.

I don't think it wasn't it won a lot of spots. It was no cheetah for me for sure. No, you know, and it's funny because not a lot of people they ever going to be in that position. I was in, right?

Like imagine that. I had no radio experience. I don't think people truly stop. Sometimes I have to like stop and tell people when they say that, they're like, oh my God, Mot, you didn't talk in the beginning. I'm like, okay, that's fine. Let's take it. Let's take a moment to really think about the position I was put in. Never been in radio. Here I am. I'm a guy who's yeah, I'm great as far as creating content and being funny, but on a stage where I don't have to interact with anybody because I've been through so much.

In my life that I'm, I'm already naturally this reserved person. I'm to myself. I don't trust people. I don't believe in people. I don't know you. I don't want to know you have been through so much. And in here I am. I've gone through my entire life where nothing has ever worked for me. Nothing has ever worked.

Nothing has ever worked. Oh my God. I, I, when I got to the bird show, be I was, I had this mindset that the world just handed out for me. I mean, I was abused as a child. Every job I ever wanted. I didn't get. I felt like I had this music ability that was incredible. No one listened. I felt like I could be one of the funniest comedians on a planet. No one cared. No one. I wasn't really surrounded by people who lived

their dreams, who actually went out there, made it happen where I could see them and touch them and talk to them and go, Oh, this shit is possible. I didn't come from that. I came from the complete opposite. Like, almost as if this shit was a dream to me. I don't even know if you know, but at the time that I came to do the bird show interview at 35 dollars in my pocket. I know that I would have like lowballed that contract. You shut up. You fucked it up, man.

If you want to say, Hey, God has got a, got a show. You want to come on it? We'll give you a couple of burrs.

I would have, I would have been like, Hey, let's do it. Nothing ever went well for me in my life, man. I, I'd never experienced this environment that I'm in. I had

been passed their syndrome. I'm like, I, this is not for me because I'd been great my entire life and no one cared. No one ever gave a shit about what I had to say or what I had to do or how I felt. No one ever cared. That's so many people in the world. Right. And then all of a sudden you get an email from you saying, Hey, got a show in Atlanta. I want to see if you like to come through and be a part of it. I'm looking at this. Like get the fuck out of here. Man. This is this is wow. They're getting really good at this spam.

These junk emails are getting really good. No, I didn't. It was almost like I was living in a reality that I couldn't make a reality for me because it wasn't wasn't a thing for me. It never had been so did I get here. And I'm like, okay, we're on a radio show. We're syndicated. I don't have any experience. No one's ever listen to me. No one's ever told me that my ideas matted. My thoughts matted. My opinions mattered. I don't, I don't, I don't know shit.

Why do y'all care about what I have to say? Why do I have a lot to say, but no one has ever cared before. So why is this the thing now? And then it's like, Hey, lights are on. Go. You know what I'm saying? And it's not like I had the most comfortable welcoming into radio. It's not like I was in a room full of black people where we're talking about black shit. Right. No, it's like I'm coming into the bird show with Cindy K. I don't know anything. I am so lost. And then on top of that, I got everybody telling me we miss Brian. We miss him. Got to deal with that. They're like, Oh,

God, why would you late Brian go for this guy? Where'd you find him? This piece of shit. I might have sent you one of those emails. Yeah, it was you. I think you had a burger account. It was a point. I think Katie doubted me. Katie's like, well, I thought Brian was the guy. So honestly, in the beginning, man, I mean, and then you moved to Atlanta. I don't have any friends. I don't have any family. Every day I leave from the show. I'm going home by myself. I feel like I failed.

Every day, it was, it was hard, man. It was a lot to deal with in the beginning and the pressure of it all to kind of be the guy, the guy quote unquote in the beginning. It was tough. Yeah, I don't doubt it. And those that said to you, like, why aren't you talking more? I'm guessing came from a, this could be a cultural thing. It might be from a lot of white people that have never been in a situation.

Yeah, where you know, room full of black people, right? And everything is so new, but you had so many different things going on. So many things on top of it all.

Yeah. And you survived and your talent took over, dude. And it's so funny that you laugh, you laugh at me when I say, man, there's a lot of times where I just fake it. You've faked it. You just really faked it because you came in with a confidence.

And I believed in your talent, and I believe in your talent now, man. So you're going to be great, dude. Thank you, Burke. I appreciate it. We ain't getting into the end of it though. That's another thing we got to talk about. So don't stop trying to control my damn show, man. This is why I came in here. I can just take in the questions.

There's a lot of cultural things that, you know, I think that you brought to the show that white people have never experienced before, man. Just never. That's why I wanted to go and work on a quote unquote black show so badly for just two days to experience that. And as I said before, I couldn't get a black show to go. Yeah, bring whitey in here.

Yeah, it is and work like that. I want cultures don't collide in front of the world on an everyday basis. That is not a thing like Katie grab great Katie. You might work. It works.

I so I was telling Bert earlier about how growing up black when you get around white people, you're kind of programmed and taught to believe that you have to keep it a little less than real. Change your sweat. Change your tone. Can you speak to that a little bit?

Yeah, you have to act a certain way and present so that that person basically we're taught to make white people feel comfortable. There you go. Jesus. I mean, and white people don't even know that Katie is actually a better example than you are. So when Katie is on your podcast, she sounds much different than when she does on the virtue. I'm not talking about the inflection and her voice and stuff like that. I'm talking about the looseness when she's on with you is different than when she's on with the virtue.

So the so what you said, Katie, before you because I want you to speak to this. Okay, what you said earlier when you said I still was trying to figure it out and Walter would come in a room and I'd be away and he'd leave and then it was like. I eventually figured that out a little bit. I feel like Katie still struggles with that. Just a tad in my and my accurate on that.

Okay, 100% why? I really don't know. So like, for example, when I started working for the bird show. I started as a phone screener. I in everyone was white. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to do my job and leave. I didn't speak to anyone. I didn't I kept to myself. I stayed in America. So I'm like, okay, just do your job girl and leave. We don't know. We don't know how they might feel about black people being around. Yeah, you know, like it's. So was there anything that was being done by everybody around you or that was your perception.

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