(Pt.2) The UFO Secrecy Playbook – It’s Been Used Before: Chris Lehto

That UFO Podcast

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Religion & Spirituality, Science, Other, Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Documentary

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🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

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Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto returns to discuss the state of UFO disclosure, the role of whistleblowers, and the growing frustration within the UFO community. We explore the impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony, the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives, and how Chris’s military background shapes his view of the phenomenon.

Skywatcher and UFO Phenomenon
The Impact of Non-Human Intelligence Disclosure
The Role of Governments in Disclosure
Historical Analogies and Secrecy
Pilot Reports and UAP Stigma
The State of UAP Journalism
Facing Ontological Shock
Hypotheses on the Phenomenon and the Universe
Pyramid Discoveries and Advanced Technologies
Final Thoughts

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1:10.4	We're big fans.
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1:35.7	Digit is all about the things that Joe and I love. From the kids to the parents and all the stuff in
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