I'm Brian Hyatt. This is Rolling Stone Music Now. I have with me once again Rob Sheffield and Brittany Spanos.

Rob and Brittany thank you for returning. We are in part two of our Tortured Poets Department,

The anthology Mega Breakdown. of our tortured post department, the anthology mega breakdown and that means we're going

into the second half of this incredibly long album if you accept the whole thing as one

album and you don't see it as the original release plus bonus tracks.

I'm not entirely clear how Taylor wants us to take it. Do you think Taylor wants us to take it as all 31 tracks are the album or the other way I just said.

Because she released it the same night I think yes but also like it is very like

very clearly were obviously not announced with the rest of the track list and not like part of four of the songs were already announced as like bonus tracks on different fiscal releases.

Yeah, it's like hard for me to pinpoint

whether to think of it as a deluxe or as like a full album.

Not to mention the physical release is just the first part.

That should mean something I would imagine.

There must be some meaning to that. And there also must be some meaning to that and there also must be some meaning to the fact that some of it was the announced album and some of it was and I feel like there has to be some meaning to that but I don't know Robp up where are you landing on this vexed issue?

I think it's because they sound so different just sonically, like one is very much an Antonoff album,

and one is very much an Aaron Desner album.

And it's funny that on the first album the even the

Arandesner songs sound very Jack Antonov and on the Arandesner album you have to

really check the credits to see which ones are Jack Antonov because he's totally

going into Aaron

Desner mode. They don't, it's not like they sound all that similar. Like you

wouldn't have any trouble telling which song goes on, which half of the

anthology. Yeah, I wonder if they're actually, if you look at at it they're more sonically distinct than say

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