nobody has perfect truth or absolute truth. So maybe it's out there, but it doesn't exist and we don't have it. Fine. Cast it however you want. That's still satanic in principle. So I mean, even the fact that Albert Pike in that sentence is saying that absolute truth is unattainable is implicitly stating that Freemasonry makes no claims to have absolute truth. Okay. Is it absolutely true that absolute truth is unattainable? Let's go back to precept 101, right? They keep skirting the point that i'm making and trying to make this into some game and it's not a game okay so the bible not actually at the bible and the bible and christ don't have absolute truth well you don't necessarily have to believe that you can be a mason and disagree with albert pike thank you so it's subjectivist and relativist that's my point and that's what admitting my point. Satanism. So it's absolutely, it's absolutely synthesizable with Satan. It simply does not concern itself with that. If we were a religion in making these claims, I think you'd have a better case. Okay. There's plenty of groups within society. The Boy Scouts, for example. There's a bad example. The context of the context of our Pikes.

Yeah. There's there's tons of groups that have certain base level requirements, but then leave subjects that are not the purview or the the these alcohol. This is where they try to shift it into being a civic organization like Boy Scouts and that's not the purview or the these alcohol this is where they try to shift it

into being a civic organization like boy scouts and that's not what it is like anonymous as

an example we've done this a little bit what is let's use alcoholics anonymous as an

example you have to believe in a higher power in order to go made a 12 separate based on

masonic principles yeah so you think that alcoholicsonymous inherently denies Christ or is incompatible with

That's a strong man.

No, I'm not trying to do this.

I'm not trying to fuck with you.

Excuse me, guys. But do you believe that alcohol, this is not intentionally a straw man or distraction. I just want to know your answer. that Alcoholics Anonymous is incompatible with Christianity in the same way they believe

Freemasonry is incompatible to Christianity. It depends on how far Alcoholics Anonymous would try to

enforce their principles of generic theism. So, I mean, there's a degree to say there's a degree to say there's a degree to which it's acceptable. Their statements are sufficiently vague to allow for all kinds of possible things. So that would really depend upon the specifics. But Albert Pike is arguing. Also, it's not a religious initiation with oaths, right? It's like therapy, right? So I'm not

sure I buy the, even though AA has some elements of masonry as part of it. I'm not sure that it's

equivalent to the Masonic initiation and brotherhood. That's why I keep having to stress. Yeah, I don't think that's a great. Yeah, it's equivalent to the masonic initiation and brotherhood that's why i keep

having to stress yeah i don't think that's a great yeah it's kind of comparing apples to oranges

it's we're talking about a you know a secret society with levels of ulcer initiation

that and religious initiation that's where this ends up going

and inherently deceptive oaths and initiation that compound on each other and compile on each other

with oath of initiation that also contradict Christian dog.

Exactly. Alcoholics anonymous is just like, oh you've got to believe in a higher power.

And then, you know, we sit around and we do our group there, if you think, or whatever. It's very different from them. Well, and that's the same point I make with saying the Pledge of Allegiance later. So, yeah. Context of God. This whole chapter is about theology, not philosophy theology. So he's saying that in terms of theology, perfect truth is not attainable anywhere.

Do you believe that perfect truth is not attainable anywhere? I believe that Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the light, but I don't believe that in our current state, we're able to have like an omniscient understanding of absolute truth. I think there's all sorts of things happening in the universe. I don't know. There's what you know. There's what you don't know. There's what you don't know that you don't know that you don't claim just because I'm a Christian to have attained absolute truth. I believe that I've attained absolute truth in the sense that I know the way of God.

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