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Pt. 11: 5 Views on “Women Keep Silent" (1 Cor 14:35-36) - Women in Ministry Series

BibleThinker

Mike Winger

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.82.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2022

⏱️ 196 minutes

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Summary

Some say we should remove it from the Bible. Intro - 0:009:26 The Take It Out of the Bible View48:58 The Refutation View1:34:51 The Education or Clatter View2:05:56 The Strict View2:24:44 The Judging Prophecy View3:09:54 Conclusions Others say the Bible is rejecting these statements about women, not endorsing them. Others say this is why women shouldn't speak in church in any way, perhaps singing in the congregation is ok though. Others say this is a prohibition on women as teachers during regular all-church services. Others say this passage is about prophecy and who is supposed to participate in the judging of prophetic gifts, discerning whether those messages are from God. It's hard to get around the idea that this passage seems to endorse complementarian or patriarchal views of gender roles. But we will explore various attempts to do so. "As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak." 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 We'll examine all sides and dig deep to get as much clarity as I am able to offer on not only 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 but also how it applies to the topic of Women in Ministry. After years of being a bit confused about the topic of women in ministry I set out to spend months researching the topic in great detail to produce this exhaustive teaching series on the topic. This is part 11. CLICK HERE for the playlist of ALL the videos in this series (more will be added as I make them). CLICK HERE for my teaching notes from today’s video. You can find footnotes there, as well. CLICK HERE for my two part series on "How to Understand the Old Testament Law" CLICK HERE for my three videos explaining manuscript differences and how reliable the New Testament is. You can also find more videos freely available on my website:https://BibleThinker.org

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As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches,

0:05.0

for they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the law also says,

0:10.0

if there's anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home

0:14.0

for it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.

0:18.0

This is the very, very controversial passage we're going to be covering today in detail.

0:22.0

There's a whole debate, actually there's a series of debates on the topic,

0:25.0

and I like to understand it well.

0:26.0

A lot of modern readers are going to immediately find all of this very offensive.

0:30.0

I understand that. I'm not trying to insult you or something,

0:33.0

but I want you to understand that that's not my main concern.

0:35.0

Is that a fence that some of you feel upon reading these verses?

0:39.0

My main concern is what does this passage actually mean?

0:42.0

I'm understanding it in context.

0:44.0

What you've done is you've just read some verses randomly out of a letter

0:48.0

that was written to a group of people, and it has a fuller context, obviously,

0:51.0

and there's a whole bunch of debates on the topic,

0:53.0

but I'm bound as a Christian, as a follower of Jesus,

0:56.0

who believes in the Lord, and that this is his word.

1:00.0

I'm bound to believe this, to receive it fully, to understand it carefully.

1:06.0

That's a lot of what we're going to be doing today is understanding it carefully,

1:09.0

and then to support it completely.

1:11.0

That's what it means to, I think, be Christian in the world,

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