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Sons of Patriarchy

Psycho Therapy

Sons of Patriarchy

Peter Bell & Sarah Bader

Religion & Spirituality

4.2649 Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Transcript

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You can get Sons of Patriarchy completely ad-free on Apple Podcasts for $4.99 per month or $44-99 per year.

0:10.1

This applies to our entire BAT catalog and every upcoming episode completely ad-free.

0:17.8

Listening without interruption.

0:20.4

If you don't mind the ads, you can still listen to the series

0:24.0

for free on any of your favorite podcast platforms. This revenue helps support Outreach Idaho

0:31.5

and helps pay the bills of the series. Now, on to the episode. Several months ago while scrolling through Instagram,

0:43.1

I stumbled upon a reel by Joel Weben, a pastor in Texas. I genuinely thought it was either

0:48.7

satire or rage bait. I actually laughed at first as Webbing casually explained how his wife wasn't allowed to read a book

0:56.4

unless he had read it first and given his approval. I was sure it couldn't be real. But as that

1:01.9

clip gained traction and the Instagram algorithm started feeding me similar content, I realized this

1:07.9

wasn't a joke or hyperbole, nor was it a winking caricature of patriarchal

1:12.8

Christianity.

1:13.8

It was entirely sincere.

1:16.8

As I was flooded with more and more content, I went down a rabbit hole into a world I had

1:21.7

no idea existed.

1:23.6

A large and deeply troubling world.

1:26.3

From Tradwife movement to patriarchy and Christian nationalism,

1:30.3

to horrific stories of spousal rape justified under the guise of biblical submission.

1:35.8

And I learned that many of these threads eventually led back to the teachings of a man named Doug

1:41.4

Wilson, the pastor of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho.

1:45.7

Wilson was a mentor to Jill Webbin, and at least until a pretty recent Twitter spat,

1:50.7

the two created content together, content in which they absolutely do not shy away from things

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