Psychedelic Therapy Is Almost Here
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
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🗓️ 22 March 2023
⏱️ 86 minutes
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00:00 What is psychedelic therapy?
18:13 Are facilitators licensed physicians?
23:34 What do psychedelic therapy sessions look like?
35:34 What might the future of this therapy contain?
54:33 What is the experience like?
March 22, 2023
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, disurven listeners, as a lot of you know, there's a lot of talk online and in our culture |
| 0:05.1 | about psychedelic therapy. And as a way of clearing up some of the myths and clarifying what we know |
| 0:12.9 | about the form of therapy, I thought I'd have an expert come on the podcast, Dr. Elizabeth Nielsen, |
| 0:19.2 | who's a psychologist. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much. It's great to be here. |
| 0:23.8 | You've come on the podcast before as a few years ago and we recently re-ran that episode. And I was |
| 0:29.3 | listening back to it. And I thought, wow, what a great episode. I mean, there was so much |
| 0:33.4 | information that you provided. And I was wondering as I was listening what the current landscape is |
| 0:38.5 | if there's any updates. So let's start from the beginning. What is psychedelic therapy exactly? |
| 0:44.4 | Well, that's a great question. It's a great place to start because I think it's a place where |
| 0:48.4 | different people might have different answers. So for me, when I think about psychedelic therapy, |
| 0:52.5 | I think about the combination of the use of a psychedelic in the context of therapy or in the |
| 0:59.5 | context of psychotherapy. And so implied in there is a certain set of intentions to heal some |
| 1:06.8 | sort of mental distress. Some sort of you could say mental health problem if that's really the |
| 1:13.2 | paradigm of the way that you frame things. But there's this therapeutic intention, which is |
| 1:19.6 | different from other sets of intentions that people may have when they use psychedelics. |
| 1:24.0 | And that really frames it, part of what frames it as a therapy. So you might be looking at something |
| 1:29.1 | like, for instance, psilocybin therapy for depression or MDMA assisted therapy for post-traumatic |
| 1:37.6 | stress disorder. And in those, there's always the indication or the reason that someone is taking |
| 1:45.6 | it. And then it's embedded in this therapeutic framework. So you're working with dynamics of the |
| 1:51.6 | mind. You're working with psychological factors. You're working with the subjective experience |
| 1:58.1 | of the psychedelic in that context to help someone move towards change. So it's not entirely |
| 2:04.4 | reliant on just the pharmacological effects. I would say it's a blend or a continuum between |
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