Proxy: Nicole Can't Stop Being Aggro
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Kenan Institute for Ethics at Duke University
4.9 • 11.3K Ratings
🗓️ 14 January 2026
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
A guest episode from the podcast Proxy: Nicole is an organizer who's good at channeling her anger. The trouble is she can't always downshift -- or even allow herself to feel sad about the problems she's fighting against. That doesn't seem healthy. Maybe it'll help if Nicole can talk with someone who's been there -- years before, in a movement Nicole idolizes. With Proxy host Yowei Shaw.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody, it's John. We are closing in on season eight. Look for it this spring. In the meantime, |
| 0:07.3 | there's another show I want to share with you. We've all been there, feeling stuck with a problem |
| 0:13.7 | because it seems like no one around us can relate or because the one person we need to talk to |
| 0:19.6 | won't or can't. |
| 0:22.2 | I recently heard about a new podcast that addresses this exact thing. |
| 0:28.2 | Proxy is a show that believes no one ever has to be completely alone with their problem |
| 0:33.4 | because somewhere out there is someone who gets it. |
| 0:38.1 | Maybe they've even experienced the exact thing you're living through. |
| 0:42.5 | On proxy, Yo-Wei Shah, a former co-host of Invisibilia, |
| 0:47.2 | scours the world for that perfect stranger for you to talk to and help you get less stuck. |
| 0:53.4 | This episode is called Nicole Can't Stop Being |
| 0:56.4 | Agro, and it's about an activist with a problem that some seen on radio listeners might find |
| 1:02.5 | relatable. Nicole is great at channeling her anger as an organizer, but not so great at letting |
| 1:09.2 | herself feel sad about the things she's fighting against, |
| 1:13.4 | because she's afraid those feelings will wipe her out. |
| 1:17.2 | But is that healthy? |
| 1:19.3 | Is that just the fate of an organizer? |
| 1:22.1 | It turns out that it helps to have a heart-to-heart with someone who's been there before decades ago. |
| 1:29.8 | Here's Yo-Wei Shaw from Proxy on the case. |
| 1:33.9 | I have this friend, Nicole. |
| 1:36.7 | And while she contains multitudes, there are two primary modes that are very Nicole. |
| 1:44.3 | There's party starter Nicole, who's fun and funny, she's got the gift of Gab, |
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