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Soul Boom

Proving God's Existence With Science (w/ Dave Desteno)

Soul Boom

Rainn Wilson

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Spirituality, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.6720 Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Is God real, and can science ever prove it? Psychologist Dave DeSteno joins us to unpack why the “Does God exist?” debate might miss the point, and what research actually shows about prayer, meditation, gratitude, forgiveness, and religious community. SPONSORS! 👇 OneSkin 👉 Get 15% off OneSkin with the code SOULBOOM at ⁠⁠https://www.oneskin.co/SOULBOOM⁠⁠  #oneskinpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Nutrafol 👉 (Code: SOULBOOM for $10 off!) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nutrafol.com Fetzer 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.fetzer.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⏯️ SUBSCRIBE!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠👕 MERCH OUT NOW! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📩 SUBSTACK!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  FOLLOW US! IG: 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://instagram.com/soulboom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://tiktok.com/@soulboom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  CONTACT US! Sponsor Soul Boom: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@companionarts.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Work with Soul Boom: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠business@soulboom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Send Fan Creations, Questions, Comments: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@soulboom.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  Executive Produced by: Kartik Chainani Executive Produced by: Ford Bowers, Samah Tokmachi Companion Arts Production Supervisor: Mike O'Brien Theme Music by: Marcos Moscat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

How does God work?

0:02.0

The question of does God exist is kind of a useless question.

0:06.0

And I will say, if you had asked me 25 years ago, if I believed in God, I'd say, no, it's all nonsense.

0:13.0

If you ask me now, I'll say,

0:16.0

Hey there, it's me, Rain Wilson, and I want to dig into the human experience.

0:28.1

I want to have conversations about a spiritual revolution.

0:31.5

Let's get deep with our favorite thinkers, friends, and entertainers about life, meaning, and idiocy.

0:38.6

Welcome to the Soul Boom podcast.

0:45.8

Dave, welcome to Soul Boom.

0:48.6

Thanks for having me on.

0:49.8

You are a scientist of spiritual psychology.

0:56.5

How do you sum up what you do?

0:58.5

I wouldn't quite say it that way.

1:00.5

Spiritual tools with data-based spiritual tools

1:05.9

to make your life better.

1:07.8

How do we sum this up?

1:08.8

That's fair.

1:09.8

I would say what I'm interested in is how we live a good

1:13.5

life and what I've come to realize over a lot of time as a scientist is there's a lot of wisdom

1:19.0

in these spiritual traditions that we are ignoring at our own peril. It's almost as if you wrote a book

1:25.7

called Soul Boom, Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution and almost as if you wrote a book called Soul Boom, why we need a spiritual revolution, and almost as if you host a podcast called Soul Boom. Well, I'm glad you wrote the book because mine would not nearly be as funny as yours. And I do hope host a podcast called How God Works, which is kind of similar to this. And I have a book called How God Works, where we explore the science behind all of this. Let's start right there. Yeah. How does God work? You know, I think the title in some ways is a little too cute by half. Because when I tell people the title of the book is how God works, they think I'm going to proselytize to them. And that's not at all what we're doing. It sounds like something that would be found in a really kitsy Christian bookstore. Yeah, they think I'm going to go Jol Austin on them and try and convince them. But really what it is is an attempt to understand how and why religion shapes people's lives. And let me, if you don't want, I'll give you a little bit of the backstory, because that might make it clearer. Okay. Backstory is good, but before we go there, how does God work? How does God work? I think

2:24.9

the one thing that I've learned in doing this is that the question of does God exist or how God,

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