Protests in Kiev. Elites turn on each other
The Duran Podcast
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🗓️ 24 July 2025
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Protests in Kiev. Elites turn on each other
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| 0:00.0 | All right, Alexander, let's talk about the protests in Kiev. |
| 0:05.3 | Alexander, what are your thoughts on these protests in Kiev, which started out small. |
| 0:12.1 | Yeah. |
| 0:12.4 | They have grown. |
| 0:13.6 | We're not talking about huge protests, though, but significant. |
| 0:17.3 | I think the protests are significant enough that they've caught people's attention. |
| 0:23.4 | And they revolve around the Nabu and the Sappo, which are two anti-corruption organizations, which were created by the United States and the European Union. |
| 0:35.9 | I think mostly the United States, the U.S. State |
| 0:37.6 | Department after the 2014 Maidon coup. |
| 0:43.0 | And I look at these organizations as a type of oversight policing organization that sits, |
| 0:51.2 | you can probably say, out top of the president or maybe to the side of the president |
| 0:55.8 | of the government to monitor where the money is going or how the money is being used. |
| 1:03.8 | Is that a correct assessment of, I mean, they call it an anti-corruption agency, but my feeling is that this is more of an oversight monitoring |
| 1:13.3 | agency to make sure that whatever money is given to Project Ukraine, it ends up in the places, |
| 1:20.0 | maybe in the pockets, where this NABU wants it, wants it to go. I don't know. That's my |
| 1:26.7 | thoughts on it. What are your thoughts? |
| 1:27.8 | Well, absolutely. And can I just say just to basically confirm your analysis, the single individual |
| 1:33.2 | who played the single biggest role in setting these two things up back in 2014 was none |
| 1:39.6 | other than the vice president of the United States, that champion anti-corruption campaigner Joe Biden. |
| 1:46.6 | He was absolutely instrumental in setting these two things up. And this, of course, at a time |
| 1:53.1 | when, as we know, his son was doing incredibly creative and productive things in the Ukrainian economy. |
| 2:02.0 | So, I mean, you know, there's no doubt at all. |
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