All right, welcome. I have the man himself once again, Mr. Serafam Hamilton, and I'm joined by the

Cerberus here, the Hounds of Hell behind me. As you can see, I am not at home. I'm on the road.

And I have to say that I'm sorry for this not being the normal

live stream, but it's too difficult to do on the road, given that this is an interview because

I have to use that old stupid IMAQ that never works right. So we are pre-recording this. And

tonight we're going to have surfingaping back to discuss the recent

debates and the topic of justification and atonement and maybe penal substitution and the recent,

as I said, debate that he did with Matt Slick. But I'm going to let Seraphim kind of remind you

guys of his channel and his Patreon if you want to follow his work

and then we'll get into it.

So my channel is YouTube.com slash Cabain the Christian.

That's K-A-B-A-N-E, the Christian.

And again, Cabain, though it does have some association with Japanese samurai or whatever,

I had no idea when I invented the username.

It was a Lego.com account based on Kabam when I was in fourth grade. So no association.

My Patreon is patreon.com slash cabane. And there are three tiers there. There's also YouTube

memberships, if you prefer that platform,

and there's different degrees of premium content.

I just want to mention here that next week I will be uploading a interview with James Snap,

who's a New Testament textual critic.

I had a more.

He's going to be defending the authenticity of the long ending of Mark, the story of the woman caught in

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