Hello and welcome to the Cato podcast.

My name is David and Sarah, a fellow for free expression and technology at the Cato Institute.

Today I'm joined with two great panelists to discuss what's going on with free expression and online speech.

I'm Tommy Berry, Director of Constitutional Studies at the Cato Institute.

And I'm Robbie Suave. I'm a senior editor at Reason Magazine and a host of Rising for the publication of The Hill.

Nice to be with you guys.

Thanks for being here.

Yeah, I'm glad you all can make it.

Today we're going to be discussing all the free speech developments in the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination. There's been obviously a lot going on in our country, a lot of turmoil, a lot of discussions about free speech, violence, and where should we draw the line on what is acceptable and what is not acceptable.

And this has resulted in some actions by our government that I think have rightly drawn criticism

because of people's concern about what this means for free speech.

So I think first, let me just start by opening up by saying, how do people see this post-Charlie

Kirk assassination period? What do people

see in the country? How worried are we about free speech, violence? And let's just start there.

Yeah, I think it's important to acknowledge that this was a really incredible, terrible thing to

happen. It is a, it is true and good that we don't usually

seen, see people slaughtered for fairly explicit political reasons. It is always helpful to

keep in mind that ideologically motivated violence is a very minor category of violence in America, not because

we don't have very much violence. We just don't have very much violence of this type. So it sticks

with you when this very high profile political thought leader for the conservative movement,

the MAGA movement, is killed and frankly is killed on camera in a graphic way that all of us can see if we're so inclined to.

And many of us saw before we were inclined not to see it.

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