Welcome to the conversationsations that Matter Podcast. My name is John Harris. We have a guest with us today.

The Honorable, can I, do I say that for someone who's a lawyer, right? lawyer right the honorable or is that for

judges only do I start with that I don't yeah absolutely say it again actually that's

great the honorable Brian shooting. Yes, sir.

Okay.

Let's talk about your ministry though.

You have a unique ministry, honestly.

It's a ministry that I haven't really heard of before any other person doing and I don't know that there are people doing it there may be but you help churches with their bylaws and their polity and really I think of the

line actually from the Constitution from is applying to government,

but external threats and internal threats,

you help prevent those things with the way

that church's legal documents are worded.

And I'm just, this intrigues me a lot because it's so needed but yet it's so rare to find

someone who can help churches with the legal background you have solidify themselves.

So first of all, let's just basic question here. What exactly is it that you do and how does it help churches?

So the Act 6 project is a part of Church Law Institute, which is a nonprofit-profit legal ministries that serves churches and church leaders.

Through the Act Project specifically we help churches with organizational documents which would include bylaws and we also do some dispute

resolution work and then some training work for church leaders obviously focusing on the legal aspects of operating a ministry.

So when, how many churches have you done this with?

You know, I should have counted, I haven't, but I would say probably a hundred or so maybe

maybe a few more than that I've worked with churches as far south as Florida and

as far north as but not only you're part of New York, but even farther north up into the Adirondacks.

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