Okay, today I think we're going to finish Romans 8 today. We'll be talking about being like Jesus and how that is really not what some people think it is.

Being like Jesus is sometimes used as an excuse for actually not being like Jesus.

So we'll talk about that, the goodness of what it means to actually be like Jesus. We'll talk about that, the goodness of what it means to actually be like Jesus.

We'll talk about how believers can overcome in terrible situations, how we can actually

be overcomers and consider ourselves overcomers in terrible hard situations.

And since I'm going to be talking about overcoming and getting through hardship and all this,

I'm going to deal with if we have time prosperity preaching

and I actually found an article on bonyhin i think is bonyhin dot com I'll tell you when we get there

that was so bothersome that I thought I should address it.

So I'm going to use it as a case in point of the tactics of prosperity preachers. Now don't get me wrong, you know,

prosperity is nice, we're not against prosperity, but you know what I mean? When I say

prosperity preachers, we're talking about a move of anti-intellectual silly one-sided theology that gets used to

manipulate people into giving money to that ministry usually that's the typical thing and

that's exactly what we're talking about here.

So all that while we're doing verse by verse through Romans, we're going to hopefully finish

chapter 8 today. So starting in verse 29 of Romans 8. It says,

for whom he foreknew, he also predestined

to be conformed to the image of his son

that he might be the first born among many brethren.

Now we've dealt with the controversial issues about foreknowledge, election, predestination,

but it's not just controversy we're interested in.

So like I feel like I've handled those issues and I'd like to say okay they're

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