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Proposition 23: Job Killer or Creator?

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🗓️ 2 November 2010

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Proposition 23: Yes or No? Bob Epstein, Founder, Environmental Entrepreneurs Nancy Floyd, Manging Director, Nth Power Jack Stewart, President, California Manufacturers Tom Tanton, President, T2 & Associates Greg Dalton, Climate One - Moderator The night before an election that would decide the fate of California’s landmark climate change law, a panel of energy experts convened by Climate One debates whether AB 32 would catalyze or cripple the state’s economy. The measure before voters, Proposition 23, would suspend AB 32 until California achieves four consecutive quarters of unemployment below 5.5%. Jack Stewart, President, California Manufacturers and Technology Association, and Tom Tanton, President, T2 & Associates, argue that with California suffering 12.4% unemployment, now is not the time to burden business with additional regulation. “There’s a lot of pain and very little gain,” in pushing ahead with the law, Tanton says. Stewart agrees: “Do we want to go forward and have a growing economy and hold off on AB 32,” he asks, “or do we hobble the California economy and make it more difficult to employ the 2.3 million Californians who are out of work?” Nancy Floyd, Founder and Managing Director, Nth Power, and Bob Epstein, Founder, Environmental Entrepreneurs, counter that cleantech is the fastest growing job sector in California and critical to maintaining the state’s competitive edge globally. Floyd says that 500,000 green jobs have already been created in California, and that her venture firm alone had invested $200 million in 35 companies in the state. Epstein takes issue with claims by Stewart and Tanton that California’s climate change rules would subject the state’s businesses to onerous regulations and uncertainty. “This legislation lays out a 10-year plan. For an oil company, they tell you every place you need to be for 10 years.” Win or lose on Nov. 2, Epstein says the fight over Prop 23 has succeeded in mobilizing interests – environmentalists, venture capitalists, utilities, and tech firms – with a stake in the green economy. “What you have done, by bringing Prop 23 to the table, is you united a community that really needed to be united,” he says. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.1

How will we power our future? Can we create a healthy and clean economy? Climate One at the

0:36.0

Commonwealth Club is at the forefront of the global debate about energy, economy, and the environment.

0:41.5

Bringing together the brightest and most provocative leaders of our time, Climate One is the place where big ideas get heard.

0:48.2

With thoughtful and insightful discussions on policy, business, science, and culture, Climate One founder Greg Dalton gets to the heart of the matter.

0:56.3

It's our future. It's time to come together.

0:59.7

Proposition 23 on the state's ballot tomorrow would suspend AB 32 until unemployment falls to 5.5% for four consecutive quarters.

1:09.9

Proponents say that pause would give the economy time to heal

1:13.0

and would save citizens paying more for energy.

1:16.2

Opponents say Prop 23 would hobble the creation of new green jobs

1:20.2

and undermine California's leadership in the move away from fossil fuels.

1:24.5

Tonight we welcome two prominent voices on each side of the Prop 23 debate. Bob Epstein

1:30.3

is founder of environmental entrepreneurs. Nancy Floyd is managing director of Enth Power and a co-founder of the Clean Economy Network.

1:37.3

Tom Tanton is president of T-squared & Associates, and Jack Stewart is president of California

1:43.3

Manufacturers and Technology Association.

1:46.0

Please welcome them to Climate One.

1:51.0

Let's begin with the one-minute statements and we agreed to start with the yes side.

1:58.0

And Tom, I believe you're first.

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Why should, why is Prop 23 a good idea?

2:02.9

Prop 23 is a good idea because it will hold down energy price increases that would result

2:07.6

from implementing AB 32, the Global Warming Solutions Act.

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