Welcome to call your girlfriend a podcast for long distance festies everywhere. I'm Amina Tussaud and I'm Ann Friedman. Hi Ann Friedman

Hello

What's the agenda today? Okay on this week's agenda

We're talking about pronouns aka the intersection of

Language and identity and how we refer to people and how we are referred to ourselves and kind of on a bigger level

We're talking about why language is so gendered and what can we do about it?

It's the thing that like I feel like people make unnecessarily complicated

But also language is really important and matters and I'm really glad that we have experts who are coming on to talk to us about it

Say it's not her fault

But you

Just met somebody new and why do we care so much about pronouns on call your girlfriend?

It's important because A were word nerds and because B

The pronoun is the part of speech that refers to people like participants in the discussion people who are actively doing things

people who are verbing in the sentence and

And often in our

Limited language those pronouns come with certain genders and identity

Assumptions attached they don't always line up with a person's gender identity

But that's kind of the way a lot of us use them and the way many of us were trained to think about them

And so a lot of really important gender liberation work that's happening is taking an interest in

Pronouns and getting us all to pay a little bit more attention to how we're using them. Is that fair a fair summary?

I don't know

And you know anything that like the like a way to think about it is basically like you know

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