Welcome back to the home of the oxymoron. Evil genius. He asked the newspaper to print his obituary early so he'd enjoy it. That's like hiding at your own funeral. Yeah, a big, great gig. I'm Russell Kane. Join me to weigh in on whether the biggest players in history are more evil or genius. Becoming that rich, I'd say that is some level of genius. It also helps

it. It's a long time ago, right? It's like the podcast version of telling your kids the ice cream

van plays music when it's out of ice cream. Listen to evil genius on BBC sounds. Thanks for downloading

the BBC Arts and Ideas podcast. The conversation you're about to hear picks up on themes inspired by the summer's BBC proms concerts.

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Hello, I'm Eleanor Rosamond Baraklough, and I'm going to be your guide today.

We're off for an adventure, so I hope you've got your boots on, and you've packed your

waterproofs and snacks in your rucksack.

We're heading off to the wild blue yonder with the rapper Testament, author of the play Black Men Walking,

and the writer, broadcaster and incorrigible walker Horatio Clare, the object of our vigorous exercise to discover why and how the British landscape inspires writers.

And if you listen carefully, you can probably hear the ghosts of Coleridge and words worth

muttering about tranquility, the sublime and divine revelation, never mind what the specters

of Schumann and Beethoven might be saying on the subject.

So Horatio, let's start with you. Are these the sort of things that draw you out into the landscape in the first place?

Yes, I grew up in the landscape. I grew up on a farm in Wales. And so I didn't experience landscape as something that you escaped from, but rather something

that formed you and that you did battle with, and that was your consolation and your reward,

and a grand adventure.

I was very lucky that we had no television and very little money.

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