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Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball

Project Prospect - Unusual Minor League Results

Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball

The Athletic

Sports, Mlb, Fantasy Baseball, Baseball

4.7874 Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

DVR, Eno and Welsh talk about Bryce Miller's pitch mix, Eno's conversation with him and why he struggled at Double-A. Are the Rays messing with Taj Bradley? Plus we've got some listener questions and tons more.


Rundown

0:34 - Bryce Miller

2:23 - What is a Gyro slider

3:53 - What Savant says about Millers pitch mix vs what it really is

6:55 - Why Bryce Miller struggled at AA according to Bryce

13:14 - What's going on with Taj Bradley

20:23 - If minot league stats aren't sticky, can we trust stat driven prospect lists?

26:21 - Ben Brown

30:06 - Is Liberatore the next big FAAB pitcher

30:42 - DVR only likes bad pitchers

35:51 - Eury Perez

37:01 - Can a high K and high BB pitcher like Edward Cabrera work?

44:09 - Can Chase Silseth be DVR's bad pitcher?

46:47 - Casey Schmitt

50:53 - Can Dominic Fletcher take real time away from Alek Thomas?



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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Rates and barrels. It's Tuesday, May 9th. It's a Project Prospect edition.

0:20.5

Derek and Riper, Enosaris, Chris Welsh, here with you, digging into some promotions, some demotions, some recent arrivals and all sorts of other things focused on the long term, mostly, and young players, of course. And we're going to begin today talking about Bryce Miller, because last week, just prior to his debut, we didn't talk about Bryce Miller.

0:40.8

Two starts in the book so far, wildly different results between what he was doing in AA and what he's done early on here with Seattle.

0:50.2

And at least his simple question, how good is Bryce Miller?

0:54.4

Now, you know, I'm going to throw it to you first because there are some interesting layers to the pitch mix with Bryce Miller that might still be in development.

1:03.6

Yeah, I got a chance to talk to him after his Oakland start.

1:06.9

And we'll have a piece on this with Corey Brock coming out later this week.

1:11.2

That'll go more into depth into all this and how he's developed it

1:15.2

and what he's come through in terms of the miners and what they've done with this pitch mix.

1:20.7

But what was pretty interesting is when you're looking at, say, savant or fan graphs,

1:26.3

it says that he's throwing a four seamer, a slider,

1:30.1

a sweeper, and a change-up.

1:32.4

And that's sort of what he told me, but it doesn't, what he told me doesn't really line up

1:38.7

with what I'm looking at.

1:40.5

So what he told me was he throws a gyro slider. So that's the 87 to 89 mile an hour

1:50.1

pitch that's called a slider on Fangraphs and baseball Savant and Brooks. The slider there is a

1:58.1

gyro slider so it's hard. It has less movement than usual, and it's all about command and putting it in the right place.

2:05.5

And it's more effective against the lefties than the sweeper.

2:08.7

Can you explain the difference between like, because they also designated as a cutter in the first start.

2:13.9

What differentiates a cutter so people can know from a gyro? Like what makes it a gyro

2:19.5

and us not just calling it a hard slider or cutter?

2:23.9

Well, generally it doesn't have a good, it doesn't have a good active spin. It doesn't.

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