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This week it's the first part of our interview with the author of Nadia and the secret police book.

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We jump to the number one gymnastics podcast in the galaxy. I'm Jessica and I'm here with Spencer from the Valentine situation and let's get right into it.

If you are a club, Jim remember you have access to some documents that we are going to talk about.

This week we have Jessica's interview with Dr. Stege O'Laro who is the author of the book Nadia and the security tata or Nadia and the secret police, which is now available for pre-order in its English translation edition.

And we'll be released in April of 2023 and it's a book about oh everything Jessica's always assumed happened is made true is proven in this book.

Gymnastics buying actual spying cheating international espionage literally stealing kids lunch money that's in there too.

Right, yeah, taking taking the podium that was meant for the gymnast food. Yeah, basically make it or break it wishes it had was full of the drama that was actually going on in 1970s remaining in gymnastics.

So over the pandemic, I worked with Romanian journalist cosmon Bogdan at collecting the secret police files transcripts the head handwritten notes doing interviews and lots of documents from the secret police archives, which were available to public and Romania.

And what we found is after the 1976 Olympics, Nadia refused to be coached by the Corollis refused and the Romanian government wanted to know why so in December of 76 they initially get Operation Olympia, which launched this investigation into the Corollis.

So note that we'll talk about the secret police and the security tata are interchangeably the same thing.

So over the coming months, we are going to share new revelations that are in these documents that have not been published before.

We are going to expose some new truths and debunk some long held beliefs, hopefully debunk them even harder.

But when Cosmon and I found out that Dr. Alaro was working on the same project, but a little from a little different angle, we got in touch and interviewed him. So he started his research pre operation Olympia and he is an expert in the secret police and there are events that are covered in his book that are not covered in our research.

There are topics in our research and in the documents, we found that he doesn't cover in his book.

So we approach it from the gymnastics angle and his approach was the effect the secret police had on Nadia from childhood. So Spencer, you've listened to the entire interview with Dr. Alaro. So what stood out to you?

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