Hi, Nick.

Hi, Hannah.

Hi, Civics 101.

Now, normally, Nick, I would start with some kind of anecdote here, right?

Or some kind of joke to ease us in.

But today, I just want to get right to the point.

Project 2025.

I spoke with Paul Danz, who is the director of Project 2025.

And he said his number one goal was something that was called

Dismantle the Administrative State, which basically is what's happening now,

by cutting the federal workforce and by eliminating or neutering a lot of the agency's regulatory

powers. So this is what the conservatives wanted and this is what now the conservatives are

getting. This is Eugene Kylie. I'm the former director of fact check.org, although I still do some part-time work for them.

That part-time work includes writing a five-part series on this project, this plan, initiative

proposal, blueprint, to transform the federal government.

When I started writing about this, I didn't sit out to do a series of five stories.

I wasn't going to do that. But there's just so much here that it really required it.

All right, Hannah, you know I have wanted to do an episode on this for a long while.

I do.

And before we dig deeper into what Project 2025 actually is, can we tell the people why we're

finally making this episode right now?

Sure.

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