Miranda Devine joins Savage to dispel the myths about Project 2025, The Heritage Foundation's proposed Republican party platform that has caused an uproar on the Left and the Right. Devine explains that many of these proposals, including requiring businesses to verify that their employees are legal residents and enforcing existing immigration laws, have broad support among Americans in swing states. However, the Democrats have demonized the document and Trump's campaign has distanced itself from it. They discuss the potential outcomes of the Democratic National Convention and the possibility of a "black swan event." Devine suggests that Kamala Harris' peak may be following the convention, while Savage expresses his belief that she is underestimated and will continue to surprise people. Devine compares Harris to other presidential candidates, noting that while some have cemented personas, Harris's persona is constantly shifting. They also discuss Joe Biden's presidency and Harris's potential future as president, with Savage expressing concern about her ability to lead and her past lies. Devine suggests that Harris's handlers may be keeping her hidden from the public to maintain her mythical image, and Savage agrees, crediting them for their PR and image-making skills. They also touch on the U.S. stance towards China and suggest that the focus on Russia as a threat is a distraction from the real adversary. Devine suggests that the Deep State, including the CIA and FBI, may be involved in protecting Biden and potentially trying to prevent Trump from winning office again. Savage fears that the Deep State will do whatever it takes to keep Trump from office... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices