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The Daily

Project 2025’s Other Project

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

During a congressional hearing yesterday, Republican lawmakers accused university leaders of failing to do enough to combat antisemitism on their campuses. That’s a claim that the university officials strongly rejected. The hearing was the latest attempt by Republicans to use what they see as the growing threat against Jews to their political advantage. And it reflects a plan that was first laid out by the Heritage Foundation, the same conservative think tank that produced Project 2025. That plan, known as Project Esther, may have once seemed far-fetched. Katie J.M. Baker explains how it has become a reality.

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Rachel Abrams, and this is The Daily.

0:10.6

Today's hearing marks the next phase of the committee's work and effort to understand why.

0:16.5

This wave of anti-Semitism was able so easily to consume the nation's universities in the first place.

0:24.6

During a congressional hearing on Tuesday, Republican lawmakers once again accused university leaders of failing to do enough to combat anti-Semitism on their campuses, a claim that the university officials strongly rejected.

0:38.5

It is time for clear action on your campuses that can be quantified and can be exemplified

0:46.6

to the watching world around.

0:48.7

The hearing was the latest attempt by Republicans to use what they see as the growing

0:53.0

threat against Jews to their political

0:55.0

advantage.

0:56.0

And it's a plan that was first laid out by the same conservative think tank that authored Project

1:01.0

2025.

1:02.0

That plan may have once seemed far-fetched.

1:05.0

But today, I speak to my colleague Katie J.M., about how it's become a reality.

1:18.6

It's Wednesday, July 16th.

1:34.5

Katie, I think by now we're probably all familiar with Project 2025.

1:39.8

It was the Heritage Foundation's agenda for a second Trump term. A lot of it has already come to pass.

1:50.1

But in the background, there was this entirely unrelated project from the Heritage Foundation that I think a lot of people might still be totally unfamiliar with.

2:01.9

And it's what we wanted to talk to you about today, both what it is and also how it may have been influencing our politics and our campuses in ways that a lot of people may not have even realized.

2:19.6

Yeah, so last October, I saw that the Heritage Foundation had published this mysterious long policy paper called Project Esther online that it said was a national strategy to combat anti-Semitism in the U.S.

2:27.4

But when you read it, it becomes clear very quickly that what it really is is a plan to dismantle the pro-Palestinian movement in the U.S.

2:31.2

so that as critics say, it can crush progressive movements more generally.

2:38.3

Project Esther didn't get a lot of mainstream coverage at the time. Biden was still president,

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