The Trump administration is justifying the arrest and detention of protester Mahmoud Khalil and Rumaisa Azturk, who wrote an op-ed in a student newspaper by calling them Hamas supporters.

But when asked for evidence, the administration doesn't offer any. Here's a DHS official on NPR.

How did he support Hamas? Exactly what did he do? Well, I think you could see it on TV, right?

It's, you know, this is somebody that, you know, we've invited and allowed the student to come into the country.

And he put himself in the middle of the process of basically pro-Palestinian activity.

So where is this allegation coming from?

On today explained, it might be coming from the same people who wrote Project 2025.

Project Esther largely flew under the radar until now.

So they didn't actually say whether they took cues from Project Esther, what they said is,

well, it's always been a core principle. It just so happens those core principles can be found in Project Esther. What they said is, well, it's always been a core principle. It just so happens

those core principles can be found in Project Esther. Hey there, a little bit of news before we start

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I'm the host of channels, a podcast about technology and media and how they're both changing

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And this week I'm trying to figure out how Donald Trump is changing the media in Washington,

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On to help me figure it all out is Sarah Fisher, the excellent Washington-based media reporter

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