Progressives on Nancy Pelosi’s Taiwan Visit and US-China Policy

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🗓️ 3 August 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi< landed in Taiwan on Tuesday, ending speculation about whether she would visit the island during her tour of east Asia. Political reactions in the U.S. have been divided, particularly among progressives. Tobita Chow of Justice is Global and Matt Duss, foreign policy adviser to Sen. Bernie Sanders, join Intercept reporter Mara Hvistendahl to discuss.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Deconstructed. I'm Mara Vistindal, filling in for Ryan Grim this week.
0:14.8	Speaker Nancy Pelosi landed yesterday in Taiwan, where she was scheduled to meet with President
0:20.2	Tsai Ing-wen on Wednesday. She is the first speaker of the house to visit the island since
0:25.2	1997, when Newt Gingrich spent a few hours there, and her visit has been mired in controversy since
0:31.6	the news leaked last week.
0:33.6	U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has landed in Taiwan after weeks of speculation over her potential visit.
0:40.1	Beijing has called the move a major political provocation, and the Chinese Defense Ministry said it will
0:45.6	launch targeted military operations to counter the visit.
0:50.2	If Speaker Pelosi visits Taiwan, said the Chinese foreign affairs spokesman, it would grossly interfere in China's internal affairs.
0:59.2	He warned the Chinese military would never sit idly by.
1:03.2	Biden administration officials had warned the house speaker against it. This is the highest level visit to Taiwan by a U.S. official in 25 years.
1:13.2	Despite Taiwan having its own government culture and history, the Chinese government claims that it is part of China,
1:20.2	and Beijing has threatened to launch, quote, targeted military actions in response to Pelosi's visit.
1:27.2	Already, the People's Liberation Army has conducted live fire drills in the Taiwan Strait and the South China Sea.
1:35.2	Pelosi's Taiwan trip has divided Democrats and the Left, so this seems like a good time to reach out to two leading progressive foreign policy strategists.
1:42.2	For their thoughts on the U.S.-China relationship.
1:45.2	I spoke with Matt Duss, foreign policy adviser for Senator Bernie Sanders, and with Tobita Chow, director of Justices Global,
1:53.2	which is a project of the Group People's Action.
1:57.2	Along with Pelosi's visit, we discussed the pitfalls in mixing human rights with national security concerns,
2:03.2	how the repression of the predominantly Muslim leaders in Xinjiang connects to the U.S.-led war on terror, and what Matt and Tobita think of Biden's approach to China.
2:14.2	Our conversation happened last week, before Pelosi's visit was confirmed.
2:18.2	And to begin with, I asked about her expected trip and whether she should go. Tobita started us off.
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