Hello, hello, hello ladies and gents. My name is Kirby Kelly. Welcome to this week's episode of the bot and beloved podcast. I'm so happy that you decided to tune in on this level.

Hello, hello, hello ladies and gents. My name is Kirby Kelly. Welcome to this week's episode of the bot and beloved podcast. I'm so happy that you decided to tune in on this lovely Wednesday, or if you're listening any other time, day, month, year, I don't know.

Welcome. I'm glad that you're here. Whether you are a loyal listener who is subscribed, listening to the podcast tuning in every week, or if this is your first time, I'm glad you're here, whether it was by word of mouth, or a link, or because of my amazing guest who's on today.

In case you don't know, in case you didn't already look at the title, I have Lisa Anderson with me today who is going to be joining me in an amazing conversation where we're going to be kind of dissecting progressive Christianity, what it is, whether it's Biblically sound or not, and how we as Christians can respond to that in today's culture.

So Lisa, thank you for being here. How about you let everybody know who you are, what to do, what you're passionate about, all the good things.

Well, it's a privilege to be here Kirby and to meet you and your listeners and thanks everyone for giving this some time today, which I think it is a really important topic. So when I'm not talking about specifically today's topic and talking to fantastic people like Kirby, I actually am the young adults director at focus on the family out in Colorado Springs.

So if there are any adventures and Odyssey listeners out there from when you were kids or whatnot, you probably know focus from that.

I actually manage what's called boundless boundless.org, which is our website. We also have a weekly show both podcast and radio and our social media channels.

We publish articles and blogs at boundless.org for everyone really from college through 30 some things on the topics of relationships, faith, life stuff like career and money and all the things as you're growing into adulthood that you have to have your eyes and ears on to really mature in your faith and in life and really love others in the process.

And so it's a fun journey to be on and I'm glad to be maybe just a few steps ahead of most of my listeners and readers, which is is helpful probably.

That's amazing. Well, I'm so glad that you're here today and that you're able to be on the podcast and that we get to tackle this topic together because I've been emailed a bunch of times about progressive Christianity and theology and I'm pretty outspoken about where I stand on it that it is not biblical Christianity.

And I think that there are some people who hear that and it's like, okay, well, why? Like what's wrong with progressive Christianity? Like why? Why is that not biblical?

So I kind of want us to just lay down a foundation before we even begin kind of saying, okay, yeah, we don't believe this. This is why we don't describe to this as Christians as theologically Biblically sound Christians.

So in your words and your understanding and your expertise, what is progressive Christianity? Like what are some of the key things that define progressive Christianity that make it different from Christianity as we know it and as Jesus in the early church established.

Yeah, for sure. Well, I'll start out by saying what it's not because I think a lot of people put this lens on it as they start thinking about the progressives and a progressive theology.

It's not the only way to love God and love other people and care about the poor and care about social issues without being tied into a certain political party or being generally angry or judgmental of everyone.

So I think that's where a lot of people kind of fall out of step with what we're really talking about here because they think like, well, obviously I want to be progressive.

I want to be on the cutting edge of who Jesus is and what he means and loving other people.

So problematically what progressive what progressive Christianity ends up being is by and large and it's hard to parse all this out, you know, in the limited time that we have, but usually progressives have problems with a few things.

Primarily, they believe that the Bible at its core is ultimately unreliable.

And so really what we're talking about here is the idea that, you know, maybe there are some principles in Scripture that are true, maybe there are people historical events in Scripture that are true, but there's a lot of Scripture that's open to interpretation.

And in fact, some of it might be outdated, some of it might be a way that you apply it to your own truth.

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