And So, Okay, I'm with Tom for the midweek pod, how are you Tom? Yeah, pretty good. Thank you. How are you? Still I think I've still got a bit of a glow after after the weekend to be fair. I know it was any a draw but it felt a bit like a win.

Well, it felt like a win in there if you're going to the game. I could

be like a win in that if you go into the game thinking you're going to be annihilated

and there was plenty of reason to think that might happen then a draw feels okay.

It shouldn't be, I should should be clear where Manchester United is that that

we're delighted to get away with the draw it's all the bit 1980s isn't it it is and

doing well in the doing well in the cups and hoping to beat Liverpool and I know one

set piece occasion just just to kind of put it out of their hands as well feels like a

win oh yeah I know it's so small time it feels like this is like a child

child athletic pod or something like that but yeah I guess that's a state of

where we are them. Yeah it is a little bit yeah I don't think it's small time to want your rivals to lose.

Honestly, I think that's just football. So anyone but Liverpool. I would take city,

honestly, about on a par with Arsenal I mean obviously Arsenal above

city because the only thing that gives me pause there is I rationalize city winning I've

said this on the pod many times. They're just cheats and actually what we're talking about it

it got really irate with commentators yesterday. I obviously I was watching on Paramount Plus, but I think Darren Fletcher on the TNT Sports Feed was doing the same thing really and just not like avoiding talking about the 115 charges and why City are good and just like presenting it is completely neutral that they just happen to get all these great players and this great manager and the supporting structure above it.

And they were a third rate club and just suddenly with the right CEO,

they became brilliant.

Right, and it's never the context of 15 years of state spending and we know, rampant

systematic cheating is just never given. Never. And as well, like, it's also kind of double standards in a way really as well because when you watch a forest game or you watch an Everton game, they talk about like their FFPs. All the time. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Whereas yeah with cities it's just forgotten about because they played pretty football.

See I mean since we're on this I to say, I feel maybe I'm totally contrarian on the general

consensus in kind of football fandom, but a lot of football fans, especially Ereton and Forrest fans for obvious reasons, saying,

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